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NL10:  KQo in SB vs BTN open NL10:  KQo in SB vs BTN open

06-11-2017 , 12:18 PM
Short Handed, Short stacked game:

Villain is: 33/21, AF 6.0, Cbet: 77 over 110 hands. I would define villain as a bad reg (definitely not terrible). Take my stats with a grain a salt because I start a lot of tables and play a lot of HU/shorthanded and this villain/hand is a perfect example.

•I didn't 3bet because I feel I can control pots better this way even when OOP. People hate folding at this limit. I am not the strongest player in 3bet pots. Welcome to insight on this decision

•I think flop is pretty standard.

•Any merit to betting turn?

•Anything we are beating OTR?


Hero (SB): $5.40 (54 bb)
BB: $1.26 (12.6 bb)
BTN: $10.46 (104.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K Q
BTN raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($0.70) J 4 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.33, Hero calls $0.33

Turn: ($1.36) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.36) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN raises to $1.50 ???
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06-11-2017 , 12:40 PM
I'm not good with 3b pots either, but I think 3-betting pre is preferable to flatting precisely because of the type of postflop situation you ended up in here.

Flop looks good to me, turn check looks good as well on such a dry board. Definitely calling a reasonably sized bet here if he bets.

As played, I suspect people are going to tell you to c/c river. Jx isn't calling a bet and there's not very many worse Kx combos he's likely to show up with. If you do bet, sizing needs to be larger - this looks like a weakish hand value betting, and might induce a bluffraise that is very hard to call. I think $.84 or so (but as I said, I like a check here better than a bet.)

Once you bet river this looks like a fold to me. His range is pretty polarized (trips+ or air, maaaaybe KJ) and I don't think there's really many bluffs in his range given your description of villain.
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06-11-2017 , 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KatyPurry
•I didn't 3bet because I feel I can control pots better this way even when OOP. People hate folding at this limit. I am not the strongest player in 3bet pots. Welcome to insight on this decision
I don't think this is good reasoning. You need FE with a hand like this OOP imo because you're going to be x/fing too many flops if you don't 3b this. This is a snap 3bet for me 6handed, and not doing this 3handed is a big leak IMO.

AP post is fine as long as you folded river. Don't like river size though.
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06-11-2017 , 01:33 PM
What is your image at the table, I'd be thinking about your image here and also if V ever bluffs when considering calling river. I'd also bet river closer to half pot
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06-11-2017 , 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fluberbucket
What is your image at the table, I'd be thinking about your image here and also if V ever bluffs when considering calling river. I'd also bet river closer to half pot
My image is not of a maniac but I feel most villains see me as aggressive.

My reason for betting so small was to get a hand like Ax or a pocket pair to call. Right, wrong or neutral thats why I made that bet size.
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06-11-2017 , 08:33 PM
I think betting so small on the river allowed him to put you in this position. Just bet half pot and fold to a raise. AP: flip a coin.
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06-12-2017 , 02:36 AM
Not 3betting is a huge leak imo. Bet river 1/2 pot as played.
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06-12-2017 , 02:41 AM
Stop being a ***** and just 3-bet. If you're not good at 3-bet pots, there's only one way to get better.
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06-12-2017 , 04:32 AM
you can flat but you gotta be ready to make some calls from spazzy fish who dont know wtf their repping. fish love to check turns when they improve and also when they give up. the river betting is bad id prefer x/c line but id look them up considering the stakes and if you got info on the player. but most likely K8 or a set of eights but you gotta eat that **** sandwich if you dont 3 bet.
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06-12-2017 , 11:09 AM
This is a spot when you should be aggressively 3 betting and if you're not 3B KQo, then you're either not 3B enough or your 3B range is too weak imo. I view this as a standard spot where I'd be barreling flop and turn, and depending on the opponent, either C/F, C/C or bet the river. You're not getting exploited when/if someone floats you light for 2 streets so don't worry about that.
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