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NL10 : I just started to play cash, need some advice NL10 : I just started to play cash, need some advice

04-09-2008 , 11:43 AM
Hi,
I play SNGs for months but I've start to learn cash games.
I'm reading the Harrington's books.

First question before I give you hands, do I need to control the pot with overpairs in NL10 ?
Harrington wrote that overpairs or TPTK are good hands to win small pot but when the pot get big, they are probably behind. But on low limits, I don't think I have to give much credit to my opponents because they often show me very weak hands but called three streets.

Anyway, you'll tell me if i'm wrong seeing my hands.



HAND 1

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: $5.80
BTN: $10.25
SB: $9.25
Hero (BB): $10.30
UTG: $2.40
UTG+1: $5.90
MP: $9.85

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with K K
4 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.05) 4 8 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, BTN calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.65) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($6.65) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.95 all in, Hero folds


Villain is 10/3/1 over 29 hands.



HAND 2

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

UTG+1: $2.00
UTG+2: $14.60
MP1: $11.00
MP2: $16.40
CO: $10.00
BTN: $9.75
SB: $9.50
BB: $10.00
Hero (UTG): $11.00

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $0.40, 7 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 6 5 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.85) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.85) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

Villain was 11/9/1 over 53 hands.

I called his reraise instead of reraising because :
- I don't want to make fold 77-TT
- I will only be called by better hands
- I "disguise" my hand a little bit. If he has something like A6, he is not gonna see me on an overpair if I just flat call his reraise and then he could go broke on the turn if it's a blank

The cons for just calling :
- I let him draw
- If he has 77-TT and the turn is an overcard to his, I will not have action.

The turn is a bad card for me and I prefer checking behind for pot control.

On the river, my hand doesn't look very strong by my betting pattern (I called the reraise on the flop and check behind on turn) so he could be bluffing (either a complete bluff or he missed his draw), he could be vbetting his 77-TT (very likely IMO), he could be vbetting 6X or 4X.



HAND 3

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $9.80
UTG: $9.25
UTG+1: $10.25
UTG+2: $7.45
MP1: $11.20
MP2: $10.00
Hero (CO): $9.95
BTN: $10.00
SB: $15.60

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.20) 3 T K (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero folds


Villain is 11/5/1.2 over 149 hands.

Preflop : This guy is very solid but I think it's a mistake to fold my queens with position. Raising looks stupid because I'll only be called by better hand and I make fold 88-JJ which would be horrible.

Flop : I only beat AQ (very unlikely because I have two queens) and JJ. I lose against AA, KK, TT, AK, KQ (unlikely). It looks standard to fold but as I said before, I just begin cash games and I don't know what is standard or not. I only play with the "common sense" I get for my experience in SNGs (which don't involve a lot of postflop play).

HAND 4

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

UTG+1: $10.35
MP1: $1.85
MP2: $4.20
Hero (CO): $10.70
BTN: $9.95
SB: $4.60
BB: $1.85
UTG: $9.35

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with Q Q
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.15) 4 4 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG+1 calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.55) J (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.60, UTG+1 raises to $3.40, Hero calls $1.80

River: ($9.35) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $5.75 all in, Hero folds


Villain is 17/1/2 over 150 hands.

It was a tough hand for me.

Flop : I don't bet much because I want to keep some value from weak hands. The flop is pretty safe.

Turn : This minraise is very strange, I strongly think that he could have a 4. Reraising with a 6 would be foolish, the J probably doesn't helped him because he called the flop, an medium overpair like 77-TT wouldn't raise the turn because of the jack I think (plus, he would have CR the flop IMO). All that makes me think that he could have 4X or 66. But I have very good odds so I called.

River : he shoves and give me 3 to 1 odds. I can't see a bluff letting me that odds, it would be stupid. And if he is not bluffing, which hands could he be betting ? Only better hands than mine.
That's why I folded.


Feel free to comment those hands and tell me if I said something false.
Any advices appreciated.
NL10 : I just started to play cash, need some advice Quote
04-09-2008 , 11:50 AM
I came from an sng background as well. Switching to cash is really difficult.

Post these in the full ring forum, this forum is only for 6max
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04-09-2008 , 11:53 AM
Hi rodolphe,

if you want to switch to 6max uNL cash games, this is the right place

Before you start a lot of posts you should read the stickies, particulary the new user's guide. I guess you don't, because you posted several unrelated 10 max hands.

This is pretty bad, because.. well.. they are unrelated and are 10 max hands

So, please read the stickies first and post these hands in the appropriate forum. Be so kind and post one hand per thread if they are not related. I am pretty sure they have stickies too, btw.

Oh, and IBTL
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04-09-2008 , 11:56 AM
If you post more than one hand per post, you won't get such good responses because people are lazy.
But because i'm in a good mood :

About pot control: depends on the villain/board.

Hand1: I bet/fold the turn or c/r all in. You line brings you in a tough spot on the river.

Hnad2: Try to get it in on the flop and at latest on the turn (which is a good card imo).

Hand3: Against an unknown this seems fine, especially against this 11/5 nit. There's no way he is 3 betting light preflop. That king just helped the only hand in his range that we had beat (ak).

Hand4: push turn, you can't just call his turn raise and then fold an overpair on the river with 3-1 odds.
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04-09-2008 , 12:03 PM
HAND 1

I'd like to take lead on turn and fold if villain show real strengh.

HAND 2

I'd like pot control even you are in small limit. Villain didn't show real strengh before flop so I'd like call this river

HAND 3

Standard for me. A 3bet in NL10 are very rare. I think your were a way behind here.

HAND 4

I'd like to 3 bet his minraise on turn ... too much time on this limit you'll see an AJ here ..
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04-09-2008 , 12:06 PM
Oups, I knew this forum is 6max but I didn't pay attention I was posting on it.
Plz mods, move this post.
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