Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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BTN: $11.05
SB: $2.50
BB: $9.80
UTG: $5.50
UTG+1: $3.90
UTG+2: $2.10
MP1: $2.85
MP2: $5.85
Hero (CO): $9.75

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with Q A
UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $0.20, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.25, 3 folds, UTG raises to $2.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.05

Flop: ($5.15) 9 Q J (2 players)
UTG bets $3.20 all in, Hero calls $3.20

Turn: ($11.55) 3

River: ($11.55) T

villain was 60/17 i had also saw him min raise pf a few times prior

Do i lay this down against the 4bet? or am i committed? His re-raise just felt like AK to me, and i could win it with a flop that misses him... or am i taking a wrong line on this one?

Also its been about 6 months since ive played a ring game, mostly MTTs recently so my thought process is a little skewy right now.

I'm normally not keen on 3-betting with AQ but with his stats I guess it's ok. As played you are getting good odds to call his minraise 4bet, but you are probably behind.

As played, you have to call this flop, but I can't see many hands you beat - AK maybe.

You reraised an under the gun raiser with AQ? Is this standard at nickel/dime? It is definitely -EV at $50.

My line here against a UTG raiser would be to call preflop and bet or raise depending on if he checked or bet.

AQ is a bad hand to be reraising a UTG raiser--you are crushed by about half the range of a solid player and on the short side of a "race" against the rest.

Caveat: I have never played .05/.10. IM(strong)O this play becomes -EV at $25 or higher.

I can see 3-betting w AQ but I can't see call after his 4-bet (actually, if u call you may as well shove preflop).

Against a 60/17 this is a 3bet at any level.


Once he 4bets just shove.

Teddie's on the money.

seriously? 17 PFR is not that out of line,and he is raising and then 4-betting UTG. I get that we don't have much respect for a VPIP of 60%, but 17% is not completely insane.

I don't know; I do not have enough confidence to disagree strongly with more experienced posters, but this does not seem to be a spot where I would want to get all my money in preflop.

Maybe I'll try this a few times and see what happens. But, God, I have made a ton of money off people who 3 bet me with AQ. Interesting. thanks for the thought, Teddie.

I am not re-raising anyone at any level with AQ. Unless its a tourney. AK is the only non pair hand that is OK to re-raise with in my IMO.

I feel as though, if im going to play AQo here i have to raise, AQo has little value in a multiway imo. If im heads up with PreFlop raiser than i smooth call most of the time here...
[edit: i think this is where my thinking could be wrong, whats your guy's take]

But how does this look?

His PFR range is 17% { 66+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+ }
He's in Early Pos so .3 x 17 = 5.1% { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AKo }

now were at:

Hand 0: 62.285% { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AKo }
Hand 1: 37.715% { AcQd }

The fact that he four bets puts him at even a smaller range. Re-Thinking the situation myself, a fold might have been a better option?

Does this make any sense here?

yes it does make sense. good stats you put up there. def an easy fold to the 4bet

The first 3 bet is ok. Once he 4 bets just muck it quickly. Once you see the flop I feel like you have to felt it.

Yes, his 4-betting range would be narrower than that. Even a worse case scenario of JJ+, AK is way ahead of your range.

AQo is a great hand when you are the initial raiser, but not when you're getting reraised. Villain's with stats like this are easy money, but you can find a better spot IMO.

Why is it a 3-bet? Because we are ahead of his range? How do you know we're ahead of his calling and 4-betting range? There is no evidence of this. Once he 4-bets it's a pretty easy fold, pushing is better than calling though.

I think the analysis while excellent is over-the-top for a NL10 situation where we're dealing with a complete donkey. If the villain was 25/17 then the discussion here is excellent, and people moving up (as I am to NL25 and hopefully beyond), I think they are great things to take into consideration.

As for this hand, the 3bet is standard, I shove to his 4bet and roll the dice.

I 3 bet because i want too get this donkey's money in the middle. I also dont want too play a multiway pot with AQo.