I wouldnt lose more then 1 BI before dropping, rake is a nightmare below nl10, but i also dont now how the skill changes at nl10 at 888.
So today i was like really not knowing and only played like 100 hands, im not tiltink keep at n10 also its kind of easy to drop to nl6 its not this much difference, but all depends on my wanting, atm i dont want to risk so im not really sure which game i should play, nl6 for living

shotting with over 12 stacks is for many kind of standard but im not really wanting in risking atm, normally it should be o.k. with switching below lmits, risks are there of course and in my case i think i keep a bit longer.

this is gold imo .. i think you dont have any idea what a downswing is and how mindblow it is .3 months ago i start to take shot at 25 with 900$ , i go well at first , i make about 1300$ , but the hell begin , i lost 15 buyns in 10 k hands ( coolers ,hiting nothing ,some bad play from tilt and so on ). i thouth that is time to move down (not because the bankroll but was thinking that if i contiune i even lose more ) , guess what i move down at nl 10 and lossing again , hand after hand , nothing works , lost 20 bi on here . i made a 2 weaks pause and now things start to go well . so my friend what you are trying to do is spew , and you crushing graph that you post is jus a heater

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I had downswings, i played many hands in the 2007-2013 time, after i had to learn, i was just lazy time before.
I played NL5, NL6 today and run below EV but still not kind of terrible below like someones with 20 BI below in 100k hands.

But if i lost 10 BI almost ever i hadnt a good winrate if i lost more then 10 BI like in zoom nl10 in 2014.
Of course in the golden era i had serveral 10 BI drops but not really many in the 2 milion hands i surely played in this time.

You say i should avoit Snap but i have to say im very unconcentrated on nomral tables and my performance at snap it much better then nl6, even i just was unlucky with sets, Fushes AA,KK also not the best.
In comaprison.

Fast NL5.



NL6






But after all no reason to play nl6 instead of nl5 snap, why should i ?

Of course i was kind of playing nl6 like stupid with surfing also and looking to much at pt4 and so on for hands,while i played, stupd behaviour i think.

o.k. with this luckbell, but the redline is just so ugly, i surely was on sitout so often etc pp.

Variance can suck more than you know. My old database before I upgraded to get the full non-micro version, 24BIs under in 176k hands. New database? 15BI under in 58k hands. All on same site, both different hand samples.

EDIT: Sorry, read the graph wrong, in PT3 it uses BB as Big Bet (2bb) instead of bb. Make that 48BIs under in 176k hands and 15BI under in 58k hands

can someone here post some graph from fulltilt .. i really like to see wininng graph here .. and to all in line be below money line ...?

This is not the show me your winninggraphs post, i still play nl5, didnt won much.

You ask people about something but trash all their opinion LOL
I've won 20BI in 3k hands, and broke even (roller coaster) the next 30k hands LOL
You've seen the good side of variance in your graph, no guarantee you'll never see the bad side of it.

You won 20 BI per ev ?
No i was playing nl5 most of the time, only sometimes nl10, but i play fast and i do well, so why should i stop ?
I heared the opininions and played nl5 for that reason, only today i played few nl10 fast hands and i won more then 30 dollar today.
I just played one table nl10 and insta doubled so i played like 400 hands and then went back to nl5, even i could stay at nl10 now.
But i also tried normal tables and it was not better, you have more bad players perhaps but you arent that focused if you used to play zoom.

Now with over 190 Dollar taking some shots is o.k. i think.

150-170 BR is enouph for NL5 i think, only arent completely sure about the nl10 field, but its not even near as tough as nl10 zoom, even softer then nl5 zoom i think, i saw some regs massgrinding at nl5,nl10 fast both limits, but they arent that good to, of course if they would they would play higher.

Also i looked some videos and no isoraie much wider and 3-bet more from BU.



One hand from a completely preflopsupernit just wanting to get it allin on river.

888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100.5 BB
SB: 85.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 123.6 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 8.16, PFR: 3.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 104)
MP: 120.1 BB (VPIP: 17.44, PFR: 12.79, 3Bet Preflop: 1.16, Hands: 265)
CO: 161.7 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 4 3 J
BB checks, UTG bets 5.7 BB, Hero calls 5.7 BB, fold

Turn: (20.9 BB, 2 players) 7
UTG bets 25.9 BB, Hero calls 25.9 BB

River: (72.7 BB, 2 players) 3
UTG bets 63.9 BB, Hero calls 63.9 BB

Hero shows 3 3 (Four of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
UTG shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 190.5 BB


Another hand, i have AA 3-bet and he brokes.
888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 40 BB (VPIP: 18.60, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
SB: 199.4 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
Hero (BB): 197.7 BB
UTG: 96 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 284.4 BB (VPIP: 16.05, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 82)
CO: 45.6 BB (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN raises to 3.3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11.4 BB, fold, BTN calls 8.1 BB

Flop: (24.3 BB, 2 players) 5 3 Q
Hero bets 186.3 BB, BTN calls 28.6 BB

Turn: (81.5 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (81.5 BB, 2 players) 2

BTN shows 5 4 (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 21%, Flop 20%, Turn 20%)
Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 79%, Flop 80%, Turn 80%)
Hero wins 77.5 BB

Or here, just this superwhales make me win so much im not the best player.

888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 92.4 BB
SB: 43.4 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100.5 BB
MP: 139.1 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 40 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 13 BB

Flop: (38 BB, 2 players) 6 K T
SB bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 84 BB, SB calls 23.4 BB

Turn: (92.8 BB, 2 players) Q

River: (92.8 BB, 2 players) T

SB shows 8 4 (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 19%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 81%, Flop 91%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 88.2 BB