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[MICRO] What is Villains range to play like this? [MICRO] What is Villains range to play like this?

01-23-2022 , 05:06 PM
First, this is actually a fold preflop, right?
Anyways, what is Villains range here?

With a strong made hand he should have bet the flop, and the draws are too weak to 3-bet preflop.
Would you call this?


PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 80.5 BB
Hero (CO): 103 BB
BTN: 133.5 BB
SB: 76.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 2 9 K
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 17.5 BB, BTN calls 17.5 BB

River: (56.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 106 BB and is all-in, Hero ?
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01-23-2022 , 09:59 PM
Pre, 4b or fold, against most opponents it's just a fold. Calling here is not a winning strategy with hands dominated by his entire 3b range, plus not suited, plus OOP.

As played you have a decent bluff catcher but how often are people 2x potting 3b pots as bluff taking this line. If he was any good he'd probably be playing higher stakes.

He can have TT, QJ, maybe KK, KT, AA if he's a moron for value. You obviously don't beat any value hands.
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01-23-2022 , 11:39 PM
ive seen people do that w 77, j8, 68 when they spike it otr.

looks like either a bluff or the 7 made his hand. anything made earlier would be shtng bricks with the drawy flop/turn and fastplay IMO

so what's the 7 improve? or hes bluffing

if im vsing a merger i prolly begrudgingly fold, if im vsing someone who runs blocker plays i call

the line honest to god looks FOS. but mergers gon merge

Last edited by LordPallidan12; 01-23-2022 at 11:48 PM.
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01-23-2022 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LordPallidan12
ive seen people do that w 77, j8, 68 when they spike it otr.

looks like either a bluff or the 7 made his hand. anything made earlier would be shtng bricks with the drawy flop/turn and fastplay IMO

so what's the 7 improve/or hes bluffing
If your opponent is 3betting BTN with too much garbage then yes you should be 4betting and betting 3 streets for value here with a K OOP. Otherwise your opponent should never have 68 and J8 and rarely should have 77 in this spot.
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01-23-2022 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Soariation
If your opponent is 3betting BTN with too much garbage then yes you should be 4betting and betting 3 streets for value here with a K OOP. Otherwise your opponent should never have 68 and J8 and rarely should have 77 in this spot.
right, so his line looks even more FOS, unless hes
-merging and/ or
-decided to slowplay a str8 on a double fd board
-jam a set on a straight board
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01-24-2022 , 12:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordPallidan12
right, so his line looks even more FOS, unless hes
-merging and/ or
-decided to slowplay a str8 on a double fd board
-jam a set on a straight board
He can have plenty of legitimate value hands here.

Lots of people split range on flop in 3b pots or play weird, even on boards like this where button should basically be blindly cbetting 100% of hands. Just for fun let's look at the solvers line here facing the action from villains perspective.



And then unsurprisingly the best bluff catcher is KJs because it blocks the K value combos and the straights. Which probably makes KJo close, or a call unblocking all the missed flush draws, but even then it's probably a bad call because of how infrequently we actually have to call here given the line.



Edit: I point this out because even an opponent who isn't thinking too much might check back flop trappy then pull this line out with hands that the solver is finding as well.

Last edited by Soariation; 01-24-2022 at 12:09 AM.
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01-24-2022 , 12:12 AM
nice

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Originally Posted by LordPallidan12



if im vsing a merger i prolly begrudgingly fold, if im vsing someone who runs blocker plays i call
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