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Old 05-21-2009, 02:30 PM   #1551
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Also, I'm very surprised you laid down the flush draw on the K44 board. I tried to give enough room for you to shove flush draws, but it was probably a little too transparent, I guess.

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Old 05-21-2009, 02:31 PM   #1552
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Pete_rock_89: wanna ship the $$ back to the loser?
Pete_rock_89: we are too friendly..
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Full Tilt Poker $22 + $1 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1490 M = 24.83
BB: t1510 M = 25.17

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with Q K
Hero raises to t80, BB calls t40

Flop: (t160) 5 Q 9 (2 players)
BB bets t80, Hero raises to t280, BB calls t200

Turn: (t720) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero requests TIME,

Pete_rock_89: you got TJ?

Hero bets t340, BB raises to t1150 all in, Hero calls t790 all in

River: (t2980) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t2980
Hero shows Q K (a pair of Queens)
BB shows Q 2 (a pair of Queens)
Hero wins t2980
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:34 PM   #1553
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The bluff on the AQx77 board, I really wouldn't bluff there a lot, but I was pretty confident you didn't have better than Qx, and that there was a really good chance I could sell that I had the ace, especially with the board pair, which gives me a free pass to try to valuetown a Q with *any* ace. I wasn't positive you'd fold a Q, but I had T high, and you can show up with a broadway gutshot sometimes too.

The A9 on the 66833 (was it 3s that paired turn and river? something like that I think) board, where you flopped 3 sixes, I know you said laying down the A to the river bet is always bad, but I really did almost lay it down. Sort of an "I know that you know that I know that..." situation, where I know that you know that I can show up with an A, as well as some 8s (not too many though), and that I'm very likely to call with either. I ended up going one level too far there, just because it's so tough for you to actually have a hand.
As I said at the time, against a random I'm snapping the first hand you listed all day and feeling great about it. I just mistakenly thought you wouldn't think I would lay down a Q, and consequently, if you were to bluff, for it to be smaller, since I basically either have it and am going to call or don't (which follows that your value bets should be bigger). I still don't feel bad about the fold against a good player such as yourself.

You really cannot fold A hi on the river there because my line is so weak.I believe the board was 66282 and I'm repping such a narrow value range, but more importantly you can have a very wide one so it's correct for me to bluff a decent amount. Add to the fact that it seems unlikely I'm betting that much with A hi myself and it's like, well, either its a strong thin value bet, a deceptive monster, or one of his no showdown value hands that he had to c-bet on the flop still has no showdown value.
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how degenerate on a scale of 1-10 is it to play some superturbo mtts because i am still too sick to play any kind of poker that takes any brain power at all and i haven't played in over 70 hours?

and would superturbos be less bad for my ulcer?

will my degeneracy be off the scale if right in the middle of emergency diarrhea i jump off the toilet and race across the room to play a hand if i see good cards?
I think you should resort to flipping with BBVers rather than the sup.turbos.. They will tilt you more if you lose.. trust me
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:38 PM   #1555
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Also, I'm very surprised you laid down the flush draw on the K44 board. I tried to give enough room for you to shove flush draws, but it was probably a little too transparent, I guess.

I considered all three options tbh but really didn't feel like you were ****ing with me, so shoving is then terrible as I'm in really bad shape against your value range (which includes a few bigger heart draws), and I wasn't getting a good enough price to peel one card when I knew that was all I was going to get (plus how transparent it looks playing it OOP), so I felt it was a pretty clear fold. Wish I would have just c/c and stacked you when the heart came
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:44 PM   #1556
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Yeah, I thought you might lay down a Q if *and only if* I repped an A to near-perfection. Which meant I had to bet bigger, so I just made the same bet I would have made with Ax obviously.

It was definitely a little bit of a gamble anyway, because I have to think that you'll believe I'll check an ace on the turn, which I absolutely would not do against most people, but I would have done so against you.

Pretty thin bluff overall, but yeah, definitely no reason to feel bad about laying down there.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:46 PM   #1557
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Wish I would have just c/c and stacked you when the heart came
The heart was totally coming.

What you don't realize though is that it was going to be the 6 to fill me up.



haha, actually you might have had the 6, since you said you had a baby flush draw.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:50 PM   #1558
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Yeah, I thought you might lay down a Q if *and only if* I repped an A to near-perfection. Which meant I had to bet bigger, so I just made the same bet I would have made with Ax obviously.

It was definitely a little bit of a gamble anyway, because I have to think that you'll believe I'll check an ace on the turn, which I absolutely would not do against most people, but I would have done so against you.

Pretty thin bluff overall, but yeah, definitely no reason to feel bad about laying down there.
Yep, vwp on your part. Felt like it was giving you too much credit to expect you to make a bluff with betsizing inoptimal in your normal games but optimal against me, and felt like you wouldn't give me enough credit to think enough and make an unusual play folding the Q there. Tip of the cap and as I guess making that play was a way of you acknowledging that you think I'm solid (as you take my money), so thanks?

75hh btw.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:58 PM   #1559
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If you ever want to play and record both sides and swap vids, I'd definitely be game for that.

Other than that, I'd appreciate it if you don't sit me too often. I don't mind an occasional game for fun and interest value (and I think it's definitely important to play against good players occasionally), but I really prefer my opponents to be ******ed.

lol
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Old 05-21-2009, 03:01 PM   #1560
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Other than that, I'd appreciate it if you don't sit me too often. I don't mind an occasional game for fun and interest value (and I think it's definitely important to play against good players occasionally), but I really prefer my opponents to be ******ed.
Obv. I like money way too much to play 2+2 regs consistently. I do like the occasional fun/interest value game and when the lobby is clogged and I want to start getting action sometimes I like to break it up a bit, but you don't have to worry about me playing you a lot. I much prefer the droolers.
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Old 05-21-2009, 03:02 PM   #1561
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dont BRING this weak game in my house when im 1 tabling baby, this guy has pretty solid stats and is a winning reg, DONT BRING IT





Poker Stars $220+$10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t990 M = 33
Hero (BTN/SB): t2010 M = 67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 7 3
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 3 5 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t40, BB raises to t100, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t320) 4 (2 players)
BB bets t185, Hero calls t185

River: (t690) A (2 players)
BB bets t385, Hero calls t385

Spoiler:
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Old 05-21-2009, 03:04 PM   #1562
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BB bets t385, Hero calls t385
Such an appropriate finish.

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Old 05-21-2009, 06:00 PM   #1563
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dont BRING this weak game in my house when im 1 tabling baby, this guy has pretty solid stats and is a winning reg, DONT BRING IT



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hahahaha nice hand primo nice hand

and nice brag too

hope you are crushing souls today. you know you got my $1.79 to add to your roll.
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:00 PM   #1564
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Paracetamol is the nuts and lets you read people's minds!!

Got the flu, and taking meds, but for some reason I'm picking off some insane bluffs tonight. Not sure if it's meds induced spew, or if I'm psychic tonight...but Paracetamol makes me feel good
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:15 PM   #1565
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fml i think i might have an ulcer i guess playing such high stakes(for me) and being barely a winning player takes it's toll

also do you guys do anything about mouse finger health? since i started playing a lot my finger hurts.
fwiw ulcers arent caused by "psicological stress" or "emotional stress"
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:23 PM   #1566
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dont BRING this weak game in my house when im 1 tabling baby, this guy has pretty solid stats and is a winning reg, DONT BRING IT
hah. Primo throwing out some sweet trash talk ftw.
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:30 PM   #1567
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---Everybody wants to play 3+ HU tables at a time. Learning nothing, stagnating their progress and making $0.80/game with a 4% ROI playing ridiculous volume to grind out some money---

This isn't the way forward. All i see are these poser 'regs' who know nothing about learning or playing poker at all. 4 tabling for $.60/game is not poker.

People have got to get back to single tabling and learning the game. Moving up through stakes and really enjoying their poker.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular and i know it doesn't apply to everyone/anyone in these forums, i'm just fed up with 2nd rate 'regs' registering for 4+ tables at a time thinking they're on to something.

There's a million other things along these lines that **** me off but meh.
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:33 PM   #1568
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dont BRING this weak game in my house when im 1 tabling baby, this guy has pretty solid stats and is a winning reg, DONT BRING IT





Poker Stars $220+$10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t990 M = 33
Hero (BTN/SB): t2010 M = 67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 7 3
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 3 5 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t40, BB raises to t100, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t320) 4 (2 players)
BB bets t185, Hero calls t185

River: (t690) A (2 players)
BB bets 385K HOUSE, PRIMO SEES RIGHT THROUGH THAT WEAK ****

Spoiler:
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:36 PM   #1569
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---Everybody wants to play 3+ HU tables at a time. Learning nothing, stagnating their progress and making $0.80/game with a 4% ROI playing ridiculous volume to grind out some money---

SADFACE: I single table with a 4% roi and make about 50cent a game.

I do not, however, put in ridiculous volume, so I got that going for me.
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:37 PM   #1570
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If you were truly baller Primo, you would have aimed for a 386k house.
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:46 PM   #1571
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On a lighter note

has anyone read either 'Theory of Poker' or 'No-LimitHold 'Em Theory and Practice'

I'm torn between which one to get as i think they both cover fundamentals so i don't really want to buy 2 seperate books.

Would they add anything to a hu sng'ers game anyways do you guys think? all i can imagine is a lot of limit/FR/live advice and lots of math that isn't related to hu sng's
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:11 PM   #1572
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I should definitely play while taking meds more often, I run like Jesus on freakin' steroids!!

Gonna order me that PS monkey now to prolongue my good-variance stretch
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Lol, just tested out an uber agressive game..

was 3-betting like 80% OOP..
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:58 PM   #1574
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lol turbo speed games are so awesome imo; they attract biggest droolers
key part is: don't fold showdown hands
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:31 PM   #1575
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Lol, just tested out an uber agressive game..

was 3-betting like 80% OOP..
results?
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