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Old 05-18-2009, 11:22 PM   #1251
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Any gamers here? Do most stores release May 19th games at midnight? I don't wanna go at midnight and just be bleh
What big game is supposed to be coming out?
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:25 PM   #1252
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That's the problem, I don't know if it's 'big' enough.

The new UFC game is set to release tomorrow.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:31 PM   #1253
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I assume is better to minraise light 3 bettors and people who folds too much his BB regardless of the size of the raise, and 3xing or more good hands when he is a calling station and cannot fold **** OOP for even 5x pre and limping the rest of our range

Is this ok?
Also, change the distribution of the hands you raise, focusing more on card removal effects as 3bet as a proportion of VPIP increases. 54s plays decently postflop but it doesn't play well as a raise/fold hand. J4o plays poorly postflop but is reasonable to raise/fold with, by reducing combinations of Jx that could be 3bet.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:32 PM   #1254
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That's the problem, I don't know if it's 'big' enough.

The new UFC game is set to release tomorrow.
try ur local 24 hour walmart/meijer whatever else there is that i dont even know about.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:35 PM   #1255
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try ur local 24 hour walmart/meijer whatever else there is that i dont even know about.
Ugh, had a movie due back tonight, was just going to pick it up while I was there, but they're not doing it
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:42 PM   #1256
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I know y'all missed me...I'm hella busy with school and such
Will try to be back in full force at some point soon.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:52 PM   #1257
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1st hand.

Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t1500 M = 50
Hero (BTN/SB): t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with J 6
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) J 7 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) 8 (2 players)
BB bets t280, Hero calls t280

River: (t840) 3 (2 players)
BB bets t840, Hero raises to t1080 all in, BB folds

Final Pot: t2520
Hero wins t2520
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:05 AM   #1258
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Does anyone want to help develop a custom range for "Villain calling a shove preflop"? The Pokerstove/StoxEV ranges are not very good for that. The idea is not the order in which any one player could be assumed to call a shove, but the best approximation of many different types of players. "If a player calls 3bet shoves with 5%/10%/20%/40% of hands - what is the best approximation of what each distribution would look like?" Thus the order of the top 10% of hands is unimportant for someone who will call with the top 40% of hands (which would almost certainly include all possible top 10% candidates) and so each hand's ranking is based only on what players at the margin would do.

In addition, it should be weighted for the likelihood of the type of situation - for HUSNG this involves a lot more shortstacked openshoving and 3bet shoving, so I'd want to focus on the order of the range for calling those shoves.

This range can then be used as a variable on StoxEV to test the EV of a shove against a variety of different calling percentages.

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Old 05-19-2009, 02:44 AM   #1259
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Exploring the universe with Hokie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhx7ppyvuF8
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:54 AM   #1260
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i learned a lot because we played about 300 times and he adjusts, which forces me to as well
yeah but surely i'd learn from 1 game :P

nice interview btw skilled was quite the inspiration
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:52 AM   #1261
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there's one for you TGSM

i love this guy

Full Tilt Poker $50 + $2.50 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t1320 M = 44
BTN/SB: t1680 M = 56

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 4 7
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 3 6 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t120, Hero calls t120

Turn: (t360) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t360, Hero calls t360

River: (t1080) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t1140 all in, Hero calls t780 all in

Final Pot: t2640
Hero shows 4 7 (a pair of Fours)
BTN/SB shows T J (Jack Ten high)
Hero wins t2640
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:18 AM   #1262
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#!@%!$% stars and their not working rematch button,
2 ultra fishes, won, agreed to rematch, the next hu doesnt pop up,
cost me money
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:33 AM   #1263
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Just had only my 3rd 5k day of the year. Felt pretty good, it was basically all at 2/4. I even ran 2k below EV. I had to rebound because yesterday was only my second losing day since April 1st.
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:33 AM   #1264
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Any1 know what happened to ImTheFranchise?

Wonder why he stopped playing the $2k~$5k games he was crushing every1 last yr.. Maybe he is playing under a different SN..
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:36 AM   #1265
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Poker Stars $22+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1560 M = 52
BTN/SB: t1440 M = 48

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 6 5
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 9 K A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t120) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t60, Hero raises to t160, BTN/SB calls t100

River: (t440) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Spoiler:


Sick valueraise on turn pays off!
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:13 AM   #1266
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Oh man when did le ti ga come back?!
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:21 AM   #1267
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

Grudge match between TNixon and STRIKE2....? You're 3 tabling him atm.

And anyone see Whitelime play Pr1nnyraid at the $200 husng last night? These guys probably preparing for the $25k hu championship. Anyone playing that one?
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:38 AM   #1268
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Too beats today and I wonder if it is a cooler or not...

Poker Stars $22+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1035 M = 13.80
BB: t1965 M = 26.20

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN/SB with J 9
Hero raises to t100, BB calls t50

Flop: (t200) 9 8 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t200) 8 (2 players)
BB bets t100, Hero raises to t350, BB raises to t1865 all in, Hero calls t585 all in

River: (t2070) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:44 AM   #1269
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Too beats today and I wonder if it is a cooler or not...

Poker Stars $22+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1035 M = 13.80
BB: t1965 M = 26.20

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN/SB with J 9
Hero raises to t100, BB calls t50

Flop: (t200) 9 8 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t200) 8 (2 players)
BB bets t100, Hero raises to t350, BB raises to t1865 all in, Hero calls t585 all in

River: (t2070) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

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Cooler

Lots of times this is a bluff, or another 9x hand in which case you'd be splitting the pot. I don't fold FH HU
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:46 AM   #1270
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C bet flop.
Can just flat turn donk as you're not getting much value from anything but smaller pp's.
As played, you can't really put him on a big pp or 8 (unless you have reads you haven't talked about) so you have to call his bet/3bet hoping for a split or a spazz-out.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:53 AM   #1271
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I don't play HUSNGs but I much prefer raising there because he can never put you on air if you flat the turn but he could make a hero call with 22-77 or shove over you with nothing.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:00 AM   #1272
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I don't play HUSNGs but I much prefer raising there because he can never put you on air if you flat the turn but he could make a hero call with 22-77 or shove over you with nothing.
Tbh, I think you can mix this up depending on how the villain percieves you. Spazzy/ aggro/ floater/ solid etc.

Yes, we have a full house but if we raise we are looking for the villain to put us on air to hero call us/ spazz out on us and getting it in there can't be that bad a play really I know.

I think call is also an option though, lower variance and can bluff catch rivers as we're not really scared of any card. We can rep A high by check check flop and calling turn which may let villain think that he can push us off it.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:05 AM   #1273
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Cooler

Lots of times this is a bluff, or another 9x hand in which case you'd be splitting the pot. I don't fold FH HU
eheh obv I'm not folding
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:41 AM   #1274
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yeah cbet flop; just call turn imo
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:10 PM   #1275
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FU 2+2 mods, now we'll never hear the news that'll forever change the world of HUSNGs
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