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Old 05-18-2009, 02:52 AM   #1201
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

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BB: t1850 M = 41.11
Hero (BTN/SB): t1150 M = 25.56

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with K Q
Hero raises to t80, BB calls t50

Flop: (t160) 8 3 T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t160) K (2 players)
BB bets t160, Hero raises to t400, BB instaraises to t640, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to t1070 all in, BB calls t430

River: (t2300) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2300
BB shows 2 7 (a flush, King high)
Hero shows K Q (a pair of Kings)
BB wins t2300

Turn bet size was a mistake.

I dunno, am I just being results-oriented, or should I try to pay more attention to timing/bet-sizing tells?

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Hero (BB): t1110 M = 14.80
BTN/SB: t1890 M = 25.20

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with J Q
BTN/SB calls t25, Hero raises to t165, BTN/SB calls t115

Flop: (t330) T 3 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t200, BTN/SB raises to t930, Hero folds

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Hero (BB): t1110 M = 14.80
BTN/SB: t1890 M = 25.20

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with J Q
BTN/SB calls t25, Hero raises to t165, BTN/SB calls t115

Flop: (t330) T 3 9 (2 players)
Hero ???

Villain is a fish who is aggro postflop. What do I do here? If I bet I'll get shoved on a lot and without a club I'm not sure I want to call. Villain can openshove flops, but maybe I could check/call a bet and then donk shove certain turns, I dunno.

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Old 05-18-2009, 03:18 AM   #1202
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

PAD cashgame faux pas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcQ1TJ3gRoQ

4.25 in. Camera shows Laak folding KJ UTG. Graphics shows Hellmuths hand as AJ. Flop comes K95


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Old 05-18-2009, 03:26 AM   #1203
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

Nichlemn - I'm flatting the turn psb, but you can't fold for t430 more as played imo.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:21 AM   #1204
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PAD cashgame faux pas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcQ1TJ3gRoQ

4.25 in. Camera shows Laak folding KJ UTG. Graphics shows Hellmuths hand as AJ. Flop comes K95


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Old 05-18-2009, 07:00 AM   #1205
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

Love the comebacks from 40 chips. Tilting as all **** when they're the other way around but super satisfying otherwise.

Nichlemn - Second hand, I think absolutely check the flop. A ton of hands are shoving on you and you're not doing well against that range. I would c/f to a psb and of course against wimpy bets you can procede when appropriate.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:23 AM   #1206
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anbody on here simoner or know he is on ftp?
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:29 AM   #1207
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anbody on here simoner or know he is on ftp?
man that's an ugly garph
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:36 AM   #1208
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anbody on here simoner or know he is on ftp?
Saw you 3 table him, what's the deal?
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Old 05-18-2009, 09:39 AM   #1209
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Saw you 3 table him, what's the deal?
yah he semmed good just thought it might be a 2p2er, think he was up a buyin and a half overall
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:38 AM   #1210
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

i think livb is on tilt fwiw xD

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Hero (BTN/SB): t2490 M = 55.33
BB: t510 M = 11.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero calls t15, BB raises to t60, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t120) 3 3 Q (2 players)
BB bets t90, Hero raises to t180, BB raises to t270, Hero raises to t930, BB folds

Final Pot: t660
Hero wins t660
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:56 AM   #1211
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

i don't think that's a tilty move at all spamz0r

not fanboying because it's livb but surely you can see what he's thinking there?

also be interested to know if you sat him or otherwise? i'd consider it a brag to play livb fwiw

actually just noticed his position which makes it kinda worse but still the same thinking holds.....or am i way lost?
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:59 AM   #1212
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

i sat him because a fish was raping me unreal hard winning everything and livb was the only other player online; idk i just fealt like sitting him ^^
and yeah this hand i can see his logic but afterwards he was defenitly tilted a bit and 3betting like **** in the rematch (or he had the sickest run of cards ever seen)
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #1213
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i think livb is on tilt fwiw xD

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Hero (BTN/SB): t2490 M = 55.33
BB: t510 M = 11.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero calls t15, BB raises to t60, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t120) 3 3 Q (2 players)
BB bets t90, Hero raises to t180, BB raises to t270, Hero raises to t930, BB folds

Final Pot: t660
Hero wins t660
you sitting him or is he sitting you?

what is your record with him?


edit: mient, u should satellite into $25K Hu shootout tournament would be mega...

Mement, you playing that badboy?
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #1214
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

yeah i'd sit livb once in my life if i could afford to just for the sake of saying i did and maybe learning something valueable.....like skilled_sox says that his games vs livb taught him a lot.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:07 AM   #1215
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Re: ****May LC Thread****NSFW

yeah livb is obv great player; better than me at hu sng's no doubt about that (maybe i tilt less but that's about the only aspect i can think of in which i COULD be better than him)
i just felt like sitting him, he sometimes sit me; i think it will eventually improve my game a ton and i've tried experimenting with some things i've picked up from him already with decent results
score is 7-3 (in my fav) appearantly according to sharkscope

and no TGSM, i'm not playing the $25k hu shootout... way underrolled for that
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:09 AM   #1216
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yeah livb is obv great player; better than me at hu sng's no doubt about that (maybe i tilt less but that's about the only aspect i can think of in which i COULD be better than him)
i just felt like sitting him, he sometimes sit me; i think it will eventually improve my game a ton and i've tried experimenting with some things i've picked up from him already with decent results
score is 7-3 (in my fav) appearantly according to sharkscope

and no TGSM, i'm not playing the $25k hu shootout... way underrolled for that
obv, but I thought u could satellite !!! would love 2 rail u playing that..

just saw this hand with livb, thought his flop 3-bet was interesting..


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Zinsenamnn (BTN/SB): t1830 M = 30.50
livb112 (BB): t1170 M = 19.50

Pre Flop: (t60)
Zinsenamnn raises to t80, livb112 calls t40

Flop: (t160) 6 Q A (2 players)
livb112 checks, Zinsenamnn bets t120, livb112 raises to t260, Zinsenamnn calls t140

Turn: (t680) 4 (2 players)
livb112 checks, Zinsenamnn checks

River: (t680) Q (2 players)
livb112 checks, Zinsenamnn checks

Final Pot: t680
livb112 shows 6 4 (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
livb112 wins t680
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:11 AM   #1217
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std raise for value
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:15 AM   #1218
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std raise for value
i notice he 2xs every button aswell at first level (15/30)..

I am wondering whether I should go back to the 2x that I use to do, or the 2.5 I am at now...
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:18 AM   #1219
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no he doesn't ALWAYS minraise; he 3bb's some of the time (probably only 10% 3bb's and 90% minraise though)
his 3bets are very wide (from almost min3bet to 4x your raise or anything in between)
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:21 AM   #1220
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no he doesn't ALWAYS minraise; he 3bb's some of the time (probably only 10% 3bb's and 90% minraise though)
his 3bets are very wide (from almost min3bet to 4x your raise or anything in between)
o fair enough, u prob know him better than me, just railed him for a game and saw him raise to 60 90% of hands, the fold rest..

I am a player that never varies my raise from the button, I am not sure if that is +ev or not, but makes me less transparent I guess... I raise 2.5x in first level or 2x every other level (assuming stacks are deep, if som1 is short I adjust)...
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:35 AM   #1221
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obv, but I thought u could satellite !!! would love 2 rail u playing that..

just saw this hand with livb, thought his flop 3-bet was interesting..


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Zinsenamnn (BTN/SB): t1830 M = 30.50
livb112 (BB): t1170 M = 19.50

Pre Flop: (t60)
Zinsenamnn raises to t80, livb112 calls t40

Flop: (t160) 6 Q A (2 players)
livb112 checks, Zinsenamnn bets t120, livb112 raises to t260, Zinsenamnn calls t140

Turn: (t680) 4 (2 players)
livb112 checks, Zinsenamnn checks

River: (t680) Q (2 players)
livb112 checks, Zinsenamnn checks

Final Pot: t680
livb112 shows 6 4 (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
livb112 wins t680
can anyone please explain why he checked a gin turn here? and i dont understand the check raise at all, he is turning is bottom pair into a bluff? he wants to extract from draws? he wants to fold his air? I seriously wanna learn from this
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:42 AM   #1222
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can anyone please explain why he checked a gin turn here? and i dont understand the check raise at all, he is turning is bottom pair into a bluff? he wants to extract from draws? he wants to fold his air? I seriously wanna learn from this
Serious range merging lol.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:45 AM   #1223
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can anyone please explain why he checked a gin turn here? and i dont understand the check raise at all, he is turning is bottom pair into a bluff? he wants to extract from draws? he wants to fold his air? I seriously wanna learn from this
looks like he was trying to catch floats, i imagine this is a play he does pretty rarely although this is the type of board where he can't rep anything at all therefore his villain is gonna look him up super light and that makes it a value raise. personally i'd bet the turn small if i was him the vast majority of the time but obv i'm not in the game, seems like villain's floating range should be mostly gutshots and hands with decent equity or just plain old Ax that should shove over his turn bet with pretty good frequency. pretty sick bet sizing imo as well.
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Liv sucks just running hot obv
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:53 AM   #1225
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wasted some money in the sup turbos (again)

but soul crushed this guy HU...



Hand #1
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BTN/SB: t845 M = 14.08
Hero (BB): t2155 M = 35.92

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with 8 7
BTN/SB raises to t80, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t160) J J Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t160) J (2 players)
Hero bets t80, BTN/SB raises to t200, Hero raises to t320, BTN/SB folds

Final Pot: t560
Hero wins t560


Hand #2
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BTN/SB: t810 M = 10.80
Hero (BB): t2190 M = 29.20

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with Q 8
BTN/SB raises to t100, Hero calls t50

Flop: (t200) K J 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t200, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t600) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t510 all in, Hero calls t510

River: (t1620) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t1620
BTN/SB shows 7 2 (a pair of Jacks)
Hero shows Q 8 (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
Hero wins t1620

Knew his c-bet here was either a draw or a bluff, thought let him hang himself..

lost the chat afterwards but he was so mad.. lol

"how can you call with 3rd pair you f*kin id1ot etc"
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