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Old 05-07-2009, 05:04 PM   #601
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Anybody know of a good online file-sharing service that gives you a decent amount of storage, that has a fairly large max file size (100MB *might* not be enough), and that doesn't impose download limits?

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Old 05-07-2009, 05:28 PM   #602
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thought this was pretty funny

Full Tilt Poker $1,100 + $30 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t835 M = 11.13
Hero (BB): t2165 M = 28.87

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with 5 K
BTN/SB calls t25, Hero raises to t275, BTN/SB raises to t835 all in, Hero calls t560

Flop: (t1670) 6 7 4

Turn: (t1670) Q

River: (t1670) 4

Final Pot: t1670
BTN/SB shows Q 6 (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
Hero shows 5 K (a pair of Fours)
BTN/SB wins t1670
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:24 PM   #603
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You can do 800mb or something on megaupload.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:23 PM   #605
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I can't lose today it seems...8 game winning streak, 40% ROI...sustainable?



PS: I do realize by posting this I auto-doomswitched myself...it's a bit like kicking lady luck in the nuts. Just testing how lucky I really am...
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:42 PM   #606
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if people want to buy some action for the hu ftops from sunday ($500+$35), pm me! i'm obv rolled for it but i love staking people myself and then railing them as well so if there's any interest let me know
willing to give away 20% or $100 (i'm paying rake)

also, sick hold in this one:

Full Tilt Poker $220 + $10 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 116171
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BB: t1065 M = 23.67
Hero (BTN/SB): t1935 M = 43

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A 6
Hero raises to t75, BB raises to t240, Hero calls t165

Flop: (t480) 3 6 A (2 players)
BB bets t825 all in, Hero calls t825

Turn: (t2130) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2130) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2130
BB shows 9 4 (Ace Ten high)
Hero shows A 6 (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero wins t2130
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I am planning on playing the HU FTOPS and I have a question to sng HU players that played cash before learning sngs. What are the main adjustments to operate and what things do I have to know that I wouldn't know from having only played cash before.
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I am planning on playing the HU FTOPS and I have a question to sng HU players that played cash before learning sngs. What are the main adjustments to operate and what things do I have to know that I wouldn't know from having only played cash before.
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I'd guess that tp is then nuts and draws lose a lot of value.

and win flips

lol donkaments?

what is the buy-in btw?



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Old 05-07-2009, 08:24 PM   #610
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$500+$35

and i'm sold out already <o/

hope i ship it obv
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:55 PM   #613
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if people want to buy some action for the hu ftops from sunday ($500+$35), pm me! i'm obv rolled for it but i love staking people myself and then railing them as well so if there's any interest let me know
willing to give away 20% or $100 (i'm paying rake)

also, sick hold in this one:

Full Tilt Poker $220 + $10 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 116171
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BB: t1065 M = 23.67
Hero (BTN/SB): t1935 M = 43

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A 6
Hero raises to t75, BB raises to t240, Hero calls t165

Flop: (t480) 3 6 A (2 players)
BB bets t825 all in, Hero calls t825

Turn: (t2130) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t2130) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2130
BB shows 9 4 (Ace Ten high)
Hero shows A 6 (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero wins t2130
How do you not ship this pf? Explain the rationale behind flatting preflop this shallow? What's your plan on whiffed flops?
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:59 PM   #614
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his range was heavily weighted towards air at that point in the match and he was going to openshove a lot of flops; obv shipping preflop is fine as well but i think it's slightly more ev+ to just let him hang himself with his whole stack instead of the 240 he invested at that point
it's a bit more variance since i'd have to be calling my stack of on some weird boards (where he could've been ahead by hitting a pair) maybe and it looks like i hit gin now on this flop (which i obv did) but i wasn't going anywhere in most cases
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his range was heavily weighted towards air at that point in the match and he was going to openshove a lot of flops; obv shipping preflop is fine as well but i think it's slightly more ev+ to just let him hang himself with his whole stack instead of the 240 he invested at that point
it's a bit more variance since i'd have to be calling my stack of on some weird boards (where he could've been ahead by hitting a pair) maybe and it looks like i hit gin now on this flop (which i obv did) but i wasn't going anywhere in most cases
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his range was heavily weighted towards air at that point in the match and he was going to openshove a lot of flops; obv shipping preflop is fine as well but i think it's slightly more ev+ to just let him hang himself with his whole stack instead of the 240 he invested at that point
it's a bit more variance since i'd have to be calling my stack of on some weird boards (where he could've been ahead by hitting a pair) maybe and it looks like i hit gin now on this flop (which i obv did) but i wasn't going anywhere in most cases
i dont like it. you can't profitably call any K95 type boards or QT2 or soooo many boards. Shove PF if you think he's got air a lot. A6 is not a hand you can trap with. It just isnt.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:18 PM   #618
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idk i do this from time to time vs tilting opponents tbh and i can't say it doesn't work because it actually does a lot of the times

edit: QT2 i call an openshove fwiw, K95 is borderline and probably fold but close; i don't really know how to explain this tbh lol

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Old 05-07-2009, 11:38 PM   #619
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i dont like it. you can't profitably call any K95 type boards or QT2 or soooo many boards. Shove PF if you think he's got air a lot. A6 is not a hand you can trap with. It just isnt.
You can trap with any hand if Villain plays in a certain way. As an extreme example, if Villain is calling a shove 100% of the time or open-shoving 100% of flops, flatting strictly dominates shoving with any hand in any situation. You have the power to choose when the money gets in, so you may as well leave yourself the option of folding when you get more information (the flop).

Now granted spamz0r's case is almost certainly not that extreme but it might be a reasonably close. The main advantage of shoving versus waiting for the flop is it allows Villain to make a mistake by folding preflop. Is this all that likely? Probably not, it's not as if you're folding out better hands here, at best you might fold some suited connector type hands that nonetheless would had sufficient equity to call if your hand was exposed.

On the other hand, flatting gives Villain the opportunity to make huge mistakes if he's open-shoving flops as liberally as spamz0r suggests. Sure, spamz0r will fold a bunch of flops in which he has 30% equity against Villain's range but those are more than made up for by the times when he spikes an Ace and has 80% equity.
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idk i do this from time to time vs tilting opponents tbh and i can't say it doesn't work because it actually does a lot of the times

edit: QT2 i call an openshove fwiw, K95 is borderline and probably fold but close; i don't really know how to explain this tbh lol
well, you're 44% against a completely random hand on both boards (or close to it).

I mean, a shove PF has to be way better. I've only played ~1k of these, but I've had people call with Q9o, 9T, J4, type hands after 3betting pre in almost this exact situation. Take your edge there, don't diminish it by "trapping" him.
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and there's no proof that the guy will be open shoving 2x pot on a random board that doesnt give him a FD. He bluffed PF and hit a nut flop to open shove on.
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I mean, a shove PF has to be way better. I've only played ~1k of these, but I've had people call with Q9o, 9T, J4, type hands after 3betting pre in almost this exact situation. Take your edge there, don't diminish it by "trapping" him.
It's only important to "take your edge there" if Villain won't give it to you on the flop. If he'll open shove J4 a great deal of the time, why not claim your equity only when the flop suits you?
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and there's no proof that the guy will be open shoving 2x pot on a random board that doesnt give him a FD. He bluffed PF and hit a nut flop to open shove on.
That's relying on evidence from this hand. It appears that spamz0r justified his decision from inferences from previous hands (since obviously, he didn't know the results of this hand at the time he made the decision). Those hands might have involved a substantial amount of open shoving.
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It's only important to "take your edge there" if Villain won't give it to you on the flop. If he'll open shove J4 a great deal of the time, why not claim your equity only when the flop suits you?
bc you're going to be folding the best hand too often when the flop comes KQ2, QT5, etc and he open shoves (according to spamzor's read).
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bc you're going to be folding the best hand too often when the flop comes KQ2, QT5, etc and he open shoves (according to spamzor's read).
This is only because you're able to fold the worst hand a larger proportion of the time (otherwise, you'd have sufficient equity to call the shove anyway).

Seeing the flop gives you information (which you can exploit to your advantage), the main downside of which is it also gives your opponent information (which he can exploit to his advantage). However, if your opponent plays more or less the same regardless of the flop, you're freerolling.
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