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05-05-2009 , 09:11 PM

#426

Rolon

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I'm off to dinner now and I'm sure the requests for custom avatars will start to pour in now that I let it be known I'm an artist. So please just PM with how many and what type you want and I'll get them to you ASAP.

05-05-2009 , 09:16 PM

#427

All_or_Nothing

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lolol

pm sent

05-05-2009 , 09:27 PM

#428

Radeh

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Crysis is such an awesome game

05-05-2009 , 10:02 PM

#429

Yasawa

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,166

lolz

I did not shove preflop because he was usually very easy to play postflop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $11.00+$0.50 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t1870)
Hero (Button) (t1130)

Hero's M: 5.02

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9

, 10

Hero calls t75, SB checks

Flop: (t300) J

, 9

, 6

(2 players)
SB bets t600, Hero raises to t980 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: t1500

Results:
Hero didn't show 9

, 10

(nothing).
Outcome: Hero won t1500

05-05-2009 , 10:09 PM

#430

Grow

HU Forum Photographer

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05-05-2009 , 10:21 PM

#431

jayluf

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,530

totally lost here against primo.... thoughts?

Poker Stars $110+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1675 M = 55.83
PrimordialAA (BTN/SB): t1325 M = 44.17

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with T

A

PrimordialAA raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, PrimordialAA calls t120

Flop: (t360) K

2

J

(2 players)
Hero bets t200, PrimordialAA calls t200

Turn: (t760) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, PrimordialAA bets t945 all in

05-05-2009 , 10:24 PM

#432

Radeh

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If you google "grow, hot girls", one of the first pics that shows up is this:

05-05-2009 , 10:24 PM

#433

cwar

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Seriously if you represent a site you need to be very careful with the spam. Subtle spam is still spam absolute last warning.

05-05-2009 , 10:25 PM

#434

mersenneary

Food = Love

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,187

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayluf

totally lost here against primo.... thoughts?

Poker Stars $110+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1675 M = 55.83
PrimordialAA (BTN/SB): t1325 M = 44.17

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with T

A

PrimordialAA raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, PrimordialAA calls t120

Flop: (t360) K

2

J

(2 players)
Hero bets t200, PrimordialAA calls t200

Turn: (t760) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, PrimordialAA bets t945 all in

bigger c-bet is all I have to contribute.

05-05-2009 , 10:28 PM

#435

jayluf

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,530

Quote:

Originally Posted by mersenneary

bigger c-bet is all I have to contribute.

i cbet 200 to allow manuerving against a huuuuuuge range. imo 200 is not so dif then ~250-280.

i was overbet shoving pretty much any turn. but this was a wtf card.

05-05-2009 , 10:30 PM

#436

cwar

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1. I wouldnt 3bet pf against Primo and if I do it would be bigger
2. Im betting like 300 on the flop.

05-05-2009 , 10:31 PM

#437

cwar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jayluf

i cbet 200 to allow manuerving against a huuuuuuge range. imo 200 is not so dif then ~250-280.

i was overbet shoving pretty much any turn. but this was a wtf card.

If thats the mindset you are going into it with I dont see how this changes anything, shove.

edit: and I like your small cbet in that case as well

05-05-2009 , 10:35 PM

#438

mersenneary

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jayluf

i cbet 200 to allow manuerving against a huuuuuuge range. imo 200 is not so dif then ~250-280.

i was overbet shoving pretty much any turn. but this was a wtf card.

I don't mind it much given this but still think you let him off the hook a bit with the smaller c-bet. ~250-280 makes it more transparent that you're going to the felt with the hand given the pot-sized turn shove it sets up and I think that's a good thing with the draw. Obv I don't know gameflow or anything but I think Jx is put in a much tougher spot with the bigger c-bet.

05-05-2009 , 10:38 PM

#439

jayluf

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good deal. thanks for the 2cents.

05-05-2009 , 10:39 PM

#440

cwar

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i kinda doubt if primo has Jx here he is ever folding the flop ever, maybe if you pry it from his cold dead hands

05-05-2009 , 10:43 PM

#441

mersenneary

Food = Love

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cwar

i kinda doubt if primo has Jx here he is ever folding the flop ever, maybe if you pry it from his cold dead hands

Depends a lot on jayluf's 3-betting frequency. Against my nitty-ass range I'm loving it if J9 wants to be stubborn on this flop.

05-05-2009 , 10:49 PM

#442

mjw006

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,878

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayluf

totally lost here against primo.... thoughts?

Poker Stars $110+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1675 M = 55.83
PrimordialAA (BTN/SB): t1325 M = 44.17

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with T

A

PrimordialAA raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, PrimordialAA calls t120

Flop: (t360) K

2

J

(2 players)
Hero bets t200, PrimordialAA calls t200

Turn: (t760) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, PrimordialAA bets t945 all in

Im 3betting bigger fwiw (200, not much diff but it allows me to bet like 280 at flop and be more committed)...

c/shove flop is sexy, if you think he will cbet if you check with a high enough frequency.

As played i hate my life on the turn.

05-05-2009 , 10:49 PM

#443

All_or_Nothing

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersenneary

Depends a lot on jayluf's 3-betting frequency. Against my nitty-ass range I'm loving it if J9 wants to be stubborn on this flop.

Yeah but if you have a tight 3bet range then that changes things obv.

But i get the point your making, but the hands that continue on that board will be based on how wide the villain (or in this case jayluf) is 3-betting.

edit - so jayluf needs to give a little more info imo

05-05-2009 , 10:58 PM

#444

xSCWx

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,429

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwar

Seriously if you represent a site you need to be very careful with the spam. Subtle spam is still spam absolute last warning.

Was taking down the instructions on how to put the final table as your background really necessary?

Edit: To clarify this, I understand that the screenshot was borderline (and considering you deleted it, obviously across the line), but the text details didn't break any rules at all and you deleted those too even though it helped people.

Last edited by xSCWx; 05-05-2009 at 11:10 PM.

05-05-2009 , 11:04 PM

#445

jayluf

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,530

i think that primo thinks i generally 3bet a relatively small % (~12-15). however, in the past 2 matches (this one and one a few days ago) he has increased his 3bet % dramatically (roughly double that of the stats i have on him) so he may be thinking that i am getting a little frustrated with this and to counter am now 3betting a wider range pf

05-05-2009 , 11:08 PM

#446

mersenneary

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xSCWx

Edit: To clarify this, I understand that the screenshot was borderline (and considering you deleted it, obviously across the line), but the text details didn't break any rules at all and you deleted those too even though it helped people.

If it was confusing: They were just instructions on how to have the "Final Table" background be there; it doesn't install the logo onto the table too.

05-05-2009 , 11:09 PM

#447

filthyvermin

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60,139

primo is such a donkey. easy call imo

05-05-2009 , 11:11 PM

#448

pushing22

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,716

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayluf

totally lost here against primo.... thoughts?

Poker Stars $110+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1675 M = 55.83
PrimordialAA (BTN/SB): t1325 M = 44.17

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with T

A

PrimordialAA raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, PrimordialAA calls t120

Flop: (t360) K

2

J

(2 players)
Hero bets t200, PrimordialAA calls t200

Turn: (t760) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, PrimordialAA bets t945 all in

like pre, like flop, love turn check, but seemingly you did it for wrong reasons because it is check/snap call

05-05-2009 , 11:21 PM

#449

filthyvermin

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60,139

Quote:

Originally Posted by pushing22

like pre, like flop, love turn check, but seemingly you did it for wrong reasons because it is check/snap call

woo hoo!!! i was right. unless pushing is being sarcastic

05-05-2009 , 11:23 PM

#450

All_or_Nothing

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,736

Quote:

oo hoo!!! i was right. unless pushing is being sarcastic

He's not.

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