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11-01-2009 , 10:00 AM
Heros image is LAG and has won several pots in the last round without showdown, Hero knows the table is getting ready to push back. Hero has 2.5K.

EP's image is TAG and is a winning player in the game. EP has 3.5K

Villian's image is Tight Passive and has a propensity to stack off with a big hand that is obviously not best and whine about getting bad beat. Villian has been playing tight and is up a bit after flopping a set. Villian has 3K.

Hero is dealt [8c,9c] UTG and raises to 30, EP 3 bets to 110, Villian calls 110, SB calls 110, Hero calls. Pot [445].

Flop is [Kc, Jc, Tc] . Hero bets 300. EP folds, Villian calls, SB folds. Pot [1045]

Turn is [4h]. Hero bets 525, Villian raises to 1050. Hero?
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11-01-2009 , 10:47 AM
Everyone should have to follow the rules

it would be nice to get everyone posting anything live there (under 5/10) and 5/10 in the small stakes forum. it's not fair to post ur live hands in these forums to gain information from the online crowd when most of us really have nothing to offer them back (in the way of advice) in their threads.
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11-01-2009 , 11:25 AM
FOLD
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11-02-2009 , 01:22 AM
so given description of villian were beat by exactly one combo?
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11-02-2009 , 01:29 AM
AcQc, he got the royal flush, baby. Show and fold.
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11-02-2009 , 08:54 AM
show only 8 then fold
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11-03-2009 , 12:31 AM
Folding here live, is worst than calling a raise OOP with 9 high pre, which is worst than raising with 9 high UTG in the first place.
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11-03-2009 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by w00t77
Folding here live, is worst than calling a raise OOP with 9 high pre, which is worst than raising with 9 high UTG in the first place.
huh? theyre 500 big blinds deep. i know we like to bash live players, but preflop is totally standard imo
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11-03-2009 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by O0Brian0O
huh? theyre 500 big blinds deep. i know we like to bash live players, but preflop is totally standard imo
LoL, ok sorry, i just cant help with the bashing..LoL

But seriously, are we just gonna fold this? Villain is described as a Tight Passive, but cant he have sets, 2 pairs, or a straight here? AQ with Ace of clubs?

How may here are seriously opting to fold turn here?
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11-04-2009 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KneedUrDough
Everyone should have to follow the rules

it would be nice to get everyone posting anything live there (under 5/10) and 5/10 in the small stakes forum. it's not fair to post ur live hands in these forums to gain information from the online crowd when most of us really have nothing to offer them back (in the way of advice) in their threads.
I wish you would stop being an ass to anyone who posts. If YOU read the rules, it is UP to 2/5. 5/5 is HIGHER than 2/5 and plays larger. Instead of being a stickler, maybe realize that this is an interesting position?

No, i'm not folding this spot, too many combos here you have beat that would raise the turn, including AQ with the A clubs. Preflop is bad, but can't fold turn. If he has you beat, he has you beat... but i don't see it. If he's at TAG as you say..... he might have a straight, or he might have a set. He can't have a A9 of clubs, or Q9 of clubs... so it's set, straight, or 2 pair, all of which he could reasonably play that way. As played, i'm getting it in and if he is TAG he won't be flipping over A2 clubs.
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11-04-2009 , 07:20 PM
I thought about this decision forever and eventually decided that if I am going to raise in EP with suited gappers/connectors and flop flushes/straights that I have to stack off when they hit. Especially in this situation where I can put him on only one card combination that I beat. And given my reads on this player, that he stacks off light when he gets married to his hand PF, I opted to push.

And now on the the second part of this hand.

I push, he instacalls and tables [Ac,Qc]. He then instructs the dealer to hold all action because "I have got to get a picture of this", he puts his card next to the board like in the WSOP coverage, whips out an iphone and snaps a quick photo of the situation. Hero ?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how big of a douche bag is this guy, also what type of retaliation is warranted in this situation?
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11-04-2009 , 07:41 PM
say "nh wp" and move on
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11-05-2009 , 08:43 PM
POST HERE IMO


Second part:

If I knew a guy would come onto a forum the next day, post a beat like that and cry to the forum I would whip out my camera also. FWIW
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11-06-2009 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pr0tege
I wish you would stop being an ass to anyone who posts. If YOU read the rules, it is UP to 2/5. 5/5 is HIGHER than 2/5 and plays larger. Instead of being a stickler, maybe realize that this is an interesting position?
True, this hand plays bigger than average and could maybe stay in the SSFR but 5/5 is not 5/10 and in most casinos it's 500max. As for being interesting, it's a clear shove because of Villain's description and because Hero raised UTG (and then called a 3bet) and hit the flop about as good as you could expect. This hand belongs in BBV and the Villain belongs in the ICU.
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11-06-2009 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by psilocybin
say "nh wp" and move on
THIS, and yell out "rebuy!" Dream about punching him in the neck after you get home, but stay focused at the table.
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11-06-2009 , 11:34 AM
Welcome to deep stack poker, everyone.

Call pf is pretty standard this deep with a laggy image. People are going to call Hero down light.

I don't like the donk bet on the flop. I'm more inclined to c/r this. By betting, the only hands that are going to stay in are with an A of diamonds. A c/r will collect at least 1 bet.

Turn is not a snap fold, but a fold. He wants a call, meaning you have 1 out at best.
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