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04-14-2024 , 03:30 PM

Chiffo

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Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 333

[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $73.58 (294.3 bb)
BB: $33.96 (135.8 bb)
UTG: $24.45 (97.8 bb)
MP: $49.50 (198 bb)
CO: $36.52 (146.1 bb)
BTN: $23.82 (95.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.55, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.75, BB folds, MP calls $2.20

Flop: ($5.75) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.10, MP calls $4.10

Turn: ($13.95) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $9.94, MP calls $9.94

River: ($33.83) 9

(2 players)
[color="red"]Hero

I think is fold pre deep ? Vs Unknown ....

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04-14-2024 , 03:45 PM

DooDooPoker

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Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,585

Preflop isn't very good since they overcall 3bets and you are deep.

Flop bet is way too big. As played OTF I'd XR turn jam.

River is just a x/f.

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04-14-2024 , 04:14 PM

Chiffo

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Preflop isn't very good since they overcall 3bets and you are deep.

Flop bet is way too big. As played OTF I'd XR turn jam.

River is just a x/f.

Preflop is fold
Fold best 1/2, right? Bet too big I isolate vs strong hands only? Turn check push in these stakes, idk but dont see too many worse hands to stack off. Sure There are many pair + draw and lowest 2pair but dont know if the villain stack with that 200bbs

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04-14-2024 , 08:49 PM

Franchise804

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Fold pre, but fwiw it's also a fold 100bbs deep

Flop is too big, can bet small or check.

Turn is weird, not sure if I agree with crai since villain’s range should be pretty snug after your large flop bet and you still have some stack depth left

River is x/f

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04-14-2024 , 09:07 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by Franchise804

Fold pre, but fwiw it's also a fold 100bbs deep

Flop is too big, can bet small or check.

Turn is weird, not sure if I agree with crai since villain’s range should be pretty snug after your large flop bet and you still have some stack depth left

River is x/f

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It doesn't matter if we are slightly behind his turn stabbing range because we can't play rivers well. In fact if we X turn and IP stabs $7 - we only need 43% equity against his range to to break even and 44% equity to make it a profitable shove.

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04-15-2024 , 02:52 AM

shynepo3

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 838

i haven’t played in forever but KQo is a fold now from sb vs mp?

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04-15-2024 , 12:43 PM

dude45

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Originally Posted by shynepo3

i haven’t played in forever but KQo is a fold now from sb vs mp?

I think its a mix in theory land and even in that realm it has some folds but if DDPs assessment that they overcall 3bets is correct then probably a pure fold

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04-15-2024 , 12:54 PM

dude45

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Preflop isn't very good since they overcall 3bets and you are deep.

Flop bet is way too big. As played OTF I'd XR turn jam.

River is just a x/f.

Is't KQ a good bluffing candidate as our bluffs mostly come from hands with no flush card on 4 flush boards.

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04-15-2024 , 02:21 PM

garyuuougi

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Join Date: Apr 2024 Posts: 89

Well I don't know how you play deep but its gonna have a lot of marginal situations oop if you 3bet but if you're better than the guy I don't see why not. Its KQ he calls with plenty of worse Kx and usually 4bets AK is what you're thinking right, so on a King high board you're ok usually. As played, I think bet bet check/fold is fine because you are targetting AQ, AT, QJ, QT, if he called AK, but honestly I think he is going to check back his marginal hands on the river and only bet his strong ones. If you don't have a sense of that and get ambitious to call, I think you'll see QJ often.

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04-15-2024 , 02:43 PM

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Chiffo

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Yup I bet $3 OTR (I think check is better because he can push me worst hands because I represent non flush/st8 with the minbet) and he push and obv I fold

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04-17-2024 , 09:24 AM

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SlackBuck

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Originally Posted by shynepo3

i haven’t played in forever but KQo is a fold now from sb vs mp?

Also been a while, also confused by this. Can someone please be kind enough to educate me why fold is considered the standard play w KQ in SB vs unknown MP @ 25NL?

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