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06-14-2008 , 08:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I vi ii V7
Here's why we like raising PPs from EP.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

SB: $14.00
BB: $9.90
UTG: $9.60
Hero (UTG+1): $9.95
MP: $9.95
CO: $10.05
BTN: $3.85

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with 3 3
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20) 3 4 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.40) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50

River: ($5.40) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BTN calls $1.60 all in

It just sucks that I couldn't get the CO to come along on the turn.
Limp vs. a PFR is not the biggest issue with this hand. DUCY?
06-14-2008 , 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptVimes
Limp vs. a PFR is not the biggest issue with this hand. DUCY?
Is it the lol-please-call-my-tiny-flop-bet?
06-14-2008 , 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I vi ii V7
Is it the lol-please-call-my-tiny-flop-bet?


One of the goals of raising, like you said, is to help facilitate getting your whole stack in. People are expecting you to cbet that flop and are going to call/raise you with all kinds of stuff you crush. Even if you had lead for 1.00 there is a pretty good chance that both would have still called you. Plus you still make more on just one caller. Don't loose value, because you try to get fancy and want multiple callers. Your goal should be to get as much of your stack in as you can. You have a hard time doing this when you raise that tiny. No in this particular hand it probably would have turned out the same, but say it would have CO that called turn instead of BTN. Then your asking him to call off 50bbs on the river.
06-14-2008 , 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptVimes


One of the goals of raising, like you said, is to help facilitate getting your whole stack in. People are expecting you to cbet that flop and are going to call/raise you with all kinds of stuff you crush. Even if you had lead for 1.00 there is a pretty good chance that both would have still called you. Plus you still make more on just one caller. Don't loose value, because you try to get fancy and want multiple callers. Your goal should be to get as much of your stack in as you can. You have a hard time doing this when you raise that tiny. No in this particular hand it probably would have turned out the same, but say it would have CO that called turn instead of BTN. Then your asking him to call off 50bbs on the river.
Yeah good point. I'm kind of clueless on how to play when I raise preflop and flop a nearly unbeatable hand (like....yes overpairs can outdraw me there, but they are drawing pretty slim, but I still want some hands to catch up, like missed overs and Ax suited type of hands).
06-14-2008 , 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LearningCurve
This happened to me last night, which is weird as I don't recall it ever occurring before. Guy was like 17/7 which isn't great but I didn't feel like I could let it go. Didn't know there was a way to report him from the table on PS initially, and by the time I had it all figured out and Mod got there the chat was long gone. As I was giving Mod hh# the guy called me a disparaging name. He wasn't bounced but that was the last bit of chatting I saw him do.
I think mine comes from the fact I like to stack donks once they get deepstack with 97s, and for somereasone I become an "f'in idiot who should die a painful death, and that if they ever see me they will cut my throat".

my response 'sorry dude, way to slow play AA'
06-14-2008 , 12:43 PM
I don't think I've ever been 3-bet this much in one session. lol
06-14-2008 , 01:34 PM
lol party poker

06-14-2008 , 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpethybridge
been running 11/8 as usual. If i was at 6/4 it's just sample size stuff. I'm gonna stop playing deep tables--I am either card dead or coolered there, nothing else.
Unfortunately...so so standard...
06-14-2008 , 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpethybridge
been running 11/8 as usual. If i was at 6/4 it's just sample size stuff. I'm gonna stop playing deep tables--I am either card dead or coolered there, nothing else.
Are you playing deep tables only? 11/8 is too tight on a 200bb table. Everyone playing 100bb close your ears now... OK? Consider opening up your IP calling range.
06-14-2008 , 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtSF
Are you playing deep tables only? 11/8 is too tight on a 200bb table. Everyone playing 100bb close your ears now... OK? Consider opening up your IP calling range.
I play mostly non deep tables. part of the reason i am at 11/8 is because every time I sit at a deep table I am card dead like 6/4
06-14-2008 , 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pheisar
nice result, but can't see how that play is profitable at the micros in the long run, but i do it also like 1 out of 100 times
FWIW it has been profitable for me. I'm down with 22, 33, 44, but up with 55, 66, 77, 88, and up overall. Sample about a quarter million.
06-14-2008 , 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpethybridge
I play mostly non deep tables. part of the reason i am at 11/8 is because every time I sit at a deep table I am card dead like 6/4
OK. No helping that.

I also play non-ideal at the deep tables because I mix them amongst my normal tables, and I can't concentrate on 2 preflop strategies, so I play them the same.
06-14-2008 , 03:22 PM
got bored early in the morning, decided to see if I was any good at PLO! HH isn't working.

PokerStars Game #18126653101: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) -
2008/06/14 - 07:19:29 (ET)
Table 'Achernar IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Tusker ($43 in chips)
Seat 2: Sandhop ($83.05 in chips)
Seat 3: QuuQ ($69 in chips)
Seat 4: MockbaTour ($66.45 in chips)
Seat 5: Edithwin ($12.15 in chips)
Seat 6: kobrapower ($39.95 in chips)
QuuQ: posts small blind $0.25
MockbaTour: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sandhop [7c 6d 5s Td]
Edithwin: raises $0.50 to $1
kobrapower: folds
Tusker: calls $1
Edithwin said, "dump call with AA"
Sandhop: raises $3 to $4
Edithwin said, "think he had minimum 2 pair"
Sandhop said, "yea he had a set"
QuuQ: calls $3.75
MockbaTour: raises $14 to $18
Edithwin: folds
Tusker: calls $17
Sandhop: calls $14
QuuQ: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 4d 8d]
MockbaTour: bets $16
Tusker: calls $16
Sandhop: raises $49.05 to $65.05 and is all-in
MockbaTour: calls $32.45 and is all-in
Tusker: calls $9 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($16.60) returned to Sandhop
Edithwin said, "big pot"
*** TURN *** [9h 4d 8d] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [9h 4d 8d 3s] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MockbaTour: shows [Kh As 3c Ac] (a pair of Aces)
Sandhop: shows [7c 6d 5s Td] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Sandhop collected $46.90 from side pot
Tusker: mucks hand
Sandhop collected $131 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $180.90 Main pot $131. Side pot $46.90. | Rake $3
Board [9h 4d 8d 3s 7s]
Seat 1: Tusker mucked [8h Ad Jd Qs]
Seat 2: Sandhop (button) showed [7c 6d 5s Td] and won ($177.90) with a
straight, Six to Ten
Seat 3: QuuQ (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: MockbaTour (big blind) showed [Kh As 3c Ac] and lost with a
pair of Aces
Seat 5: Edithwin folded before Flop
Seat 6: kobrapower folded before Flop (didn't bet)
06-14-2008 , 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtSF
FWIW it has been profitable for me. I'm down with 22, 33, 44, but up with 55, 66, 77, 88, and up overall. Sample about a quarter million.
Yes, turns out that i am the one that has a leak to fix, i can see that now. Specially for the purpose of balancing my hand range, so good villains can't put me easily on a hand. I never really thought about mixing up EP, because i had the impression that good villains wont felt easily against another regular opponent anyway, giving me one more reason to think it wouldnt be profitable, but like mpethybridge said, i think, it certainly boosts my JJ+ and AK hands and gives other regulars a tougher opponent.

With that in mind, i will start to mix it up, namely throwing in up to 30% of my small-mid pp's at EP. Depending on the dynamics of the table, i will choose 2-3 small mid pp's (30% of small mid pp's) at the beginning of each session and throw them in the jungle. Be aware of tarzan, bionic monkeys

I'm glad we had this discussion, certainly the place that fixes my leaks, thanks.
06-14-2008 , 03:34 PM
I just folded Kings preflop for the first time in my poker career.


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $3.80
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $9.85
UTG+2: $16.30
MP1: $11.10
MP2: $10.10
Hero (CO): $10.20
BTN: $10.80
SB: $12.85

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K K
7 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.20) 7 4 6 (2 players)
SB bets $0.30, BB folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $0.20
SB shows Qc 6h (a pair of Sixes)
SB wins $0.20


Hooray for misclicks!
06-14-2008 , 03:34 PM
AIM conversation from a couple nights ago:


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xyz (1:27:49 AM): they be hating on the high forum
soundedsimple (1:28:10 AM): needs to be a ~100 forum
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xyz (1:29:18 AM): mpethybridge
xyz (1:29:19 AM): is unreal
soundedsimple (1:29:23 AM): LOL
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xyz (1:29:34 AM): and location
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soundedsimple (1:29:41 AM): he lost a prop be to me
soundedsimple (1:29:50 AM): we had a donkament series
soundedsimple (1:30:00 AM): and I beat him so i got to pick his avatar
xyz (1:30:15 AM): wait os he not really gay
soundedsimple (1:30:16 AM): he picked that over a canada flag!
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06-14-2008 , 03:58 PM
join me in celebrating my first $100+ day at NL25 - not bad for a guy that can't play on more than 5 tables without the pc crashing. and I needed this after a week of beats & coolers.
06-14-2008 , 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lansky2000
join me in celebrating my first $100+ day at NL25 - not bad for a guy that can't play on more than 5 tables without the pc crashing. and I needed this after a week of beats & coolers.
wheres the party?
06-14-2008 , 04:08 PM
I won 100 bucks, not a million to fly you all in
06-14-2008 , 04:16 PM
celebration over...villain had 1010

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

UTG+2: $15.00
MP1: $19.00
Hero (MP2): $26.20
CO: $26.40
BTN: $23.65
SB: $40.10
BB: $22.65
UTG: $25.50
UTG+1: $10.35

Pre Flop: Hero is MP2 with A A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.10, UTG+2 calls $1.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.25, 3 folds, BB raises to $7.40, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26.20 all in, BB calls $15.25 all in

Flop: ($47.60) 4 3 K

Turn: ($47.60) 5

River: ($47.60) T
06-14-2008 , 04:17 PM
man, 50NL is ridiculously tight.
06-14-2008 , 04:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lansky2000
join me in celebrating my first $100+ day at NL25 - not bad for a guy that can't play on more than 5 tables without the pc crashing. and I needed this after a week of beats & coolers.

Congrats. How many hands you get in? Was only able to stand about an hours worth today, too swingy. Split my first two all ins. Blech, win the hand and still lose money.
06-14-2008 , 04:21 PM
approx. 1200 hands, but now I am back down to 75 due to 1010>AA - I hate it when horrible plays get rewarded, but I guess thats poker.

edit: thanks btw. and yeah, it is incredibly swingy today, just graphed my session today and it looks like a fun roller coaster
06-14-2008 , 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedle
lol party poker

How does it play compared to Stars 50NL? Is it really as pillow soft as it would appear?

<3 the infinite river aggression. NH sir.
06-14-2008 , 04:40 PM
Actually, i was really surprised with the level there... people seem to play super aggro, not as weak tight as advertised and are generally better than a standard donk.

Also, there are like 6 pro shortstackers per 10 handed tables (no joke, im not exaggerating btw) and they all play 9/8 with an 80% ATS... that really impressed me, i think this will improve my game vs good shortstackers at 200 on stars (yeah... 50NL shorties on PP are better than 200 shorties at stars lol)

All in all, I'd say 50NL on PP plays the same as 100NL on FTP and stars nowadays (i consider players on FTP more aggro than stars but w/e)

2004 party poker is dead

      
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