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03-10-2010 , 04:23 PM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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MP1: $26.20
MP2: $8.65
Hero (CO): $30.20
BTN: $24.30
SB: $24.40
BB: $25.00
UTG: $23.40
UTG+1: $32.85

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J J
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN raises to $3, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($6.85) 5 9 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $13, BTN raises to $21.30 all in, Hero calls $8.30

Turn: ($49.45) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($49.45) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)



any1 play it another way?

- Vilain seems solid
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03-10-2010 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by unrealread
- Vilain seems solid
What worse stacks after your c/r?
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03-10-2010 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jessyj
What worse stacks after your c/r?
dont really know what you mean, but after I raise to 13 there is 8 left for me to call for a 40$ pot
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03-10-2010 , 04:28 PM
Hand range for stacking that flop in a 3bet pot includes 1 draw that you beat {QJ}, and a bunch of combos of things that have you crushed {99-TT, QQ-AA}

(also, you didn't provide stats but he doesn't have QJ here ever.)
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03-10-2010 , 04:30 PM
I would flat the flop bet and check fold the turn or lead fold the turn depending on what you mean by solid.
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03-10-2010 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by unrealread
dont really know what you mean, but after I raise to 13 there is 8 left for me to call for a 40$ pot
i mean what hands does he continue with that you're happy to get all in against on the turn.
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03-10-2010 , 04:32 PM
ok, i'm gonna give the villain about a 4% 3bet here, which is probably wide for a "solid" 25nl'er

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

32,670 games 0.005 secs 6,534,000 games/sec

Board: Ts 9d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.212% 26.70% 01.52% 8722 495.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 71.788% 70.27% 01.52% 22958 495.00 { 99+, AQs+ }

depending on my villain, i'm often laying this down pre without some kind of history.
and this flop is tough to stack off on, you beat none of his value range and he doesnt have enough equity to be shoving overs without a FD, so if we take out AK and AQ

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

24,750 games 0.005 secs 4,950,000 games/sec

Board: Ts 9d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.624% 11.62% 02.00% 2877 495.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 86.376% 84.38% 02.00% 20883 495.00 { 99+ }


looks bleak
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03-10-2010 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kickflip252
ok, i'm gonna give the villain about a 4% 3bet here, which is probably wide for a "solid" 25nl'er

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

32,670 games 0.005 secs 6,534,000 games/sec

Board: Ts 9d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.212% 26.70% 01.52% 8722 495.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 71.788% 70.27% 01.52% 22958 495.00 { 99+, AQs+ }

depending on my villain, i'm often laying this down pre without some kind of history.
and this flop is tough to stack off on, you beat none of his value range and he doesnt have enough equity to be shoving overs without a FD, so if we take out AK and AQ

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

24,750 games 0.005 secs 4,950,000 games/sec

Board: Ts 9d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.624% 11.62% 02.00% 2877 495.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 86.376% 84.38% 02.00% 20883 495.00 { 99+ }


looks bleak

flat flop bet fold the turn is the best i could have done here?
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03-10-2010 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by unrealread
flat flop bet fold the turn is the best i could have done here?
given his likely range, I think folding flop is fine. but if he's cbetting AK on a gross board, then yeah, flat flop, fold turn is fine.

still think pre is a fold without history.
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