Villain was 31/27/3 over 86 hands. We've had some 3 betting between us pf, but we usually yielded to the flop cbet vs each other.

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SB: $57.20
Hero (BB): $28.00
UTG: $23.25
MP: $37.60
CO: $50.30
BTN: $6.45

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with J J
4 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8.00) 8 5 K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($8.00) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75

River: ($17.50) T (2 players)
SB bets $22, Hero ?

On the flop I didn't bet cuz I wanted to keep the pot small as he had CR me before during my cbets. The brick on the turn didn't make me feel I had worsened, so I called. I felt the 10 was a good card for me, but his big bet confused me. If he had checked I was going to bet about 10 dollars and call a shove.

I bet the flop. and probably don't put in another dime.

I don't why but so many people play monsters this way. They check the flop but then show strength later. If you bet flop and he stays in and shows strength, he has a strong hand.

There's a chance he think you're weak because of the way you played it. or he's trying to get paid.

as played i fold the river. Though I would have bet the flop and seen how that flowed.

i wouldve bet the flop to see where I stand, get that information

This is a monster or air alot I think. Have you been raising him SB vs BB alot so he would have a reason to limp RR a pair or AK? Thats all I really see playing this way that has us beat, except for maybe a random T8s or something like that. The only real problem I'm seeing here is there are no missed draws for him to be bluffing and he also therefore can't be trying to bet us off a busted draw. Our hand really looks like a middle pair of some sort, pocket or on the board.

I guess since our hand looks a bit weaker than it actually is and because I can't put villian on a legit hand I probably make the call and hope for the best.

Betting the flop is the worst possible line to take if you want to maximize value. Nothing worse can call so we are essentially turning our hand into a bluff and will be completely lost if villian decideds to just call. The pot is allready decient sized, finding out where we are at, at the cost of making the pot bigger, is not worth it in my opinion.

Yea i check this flop w/ JJ just about everytime. Id much rather bet here w/ like some small PPs and like AQ type hands. I think you can squeeze value on later streets w/ your hand whereas on this flop you essentially turn your hand into a bluff. Turn is standard. River, meh your probably bluff catchin so id probably fold.

what do you think of the limp/raise pf?? typical of him or what?

I think he 3bet me here cuz I've been raising his SB limp the past couple hands and was playing back.

I didn't bet the flop because if he was observant, I Cbet quite a bit and I had been CR off my hand on the flop by another player a few hands before this.

If he had checked to me, would my line of betting about 10 dollars be a spew?

you played this fine imo. river is an easy fold w/o some read that he likes to overbet bluff.

i like checking back flop and then i'd bet the turn if checked to.

This really isn't an overbet at all, effective stacks are $19 villian is just putting us in instead of only betting pot.

Result: Hero calls, Villain turns over A6o for complete air

Not to be results oriented though, I guess the consensus though is that I should have folded?

Saying you thought there was a good chance he was just playing back at you preflop I never fold here. His line doesn't make a ton of sense without that bit of information; with it it makes it more likely he'll double barrel when we check behind the flop.

If I didn't have enough reads on his postflop play to know what to do in this situation, I would just 4bet/call PF.

i guess i get you, but its a chance to take down the pot

if hes called he knows hes probably up against kings, instead on the turn he had no information about his opponents hand so the call on the river was that much harder

ps: im not sure im right, im trying to learn too

Betting the flop makes the hand alot easier to play and eliminates some tough decisions like the one faced here on the river. If you are looking at stricktly maximizing value checking is going to be the best play to get value from hands in villians range we are ahead of. If your not comfortable making decision on later streets then betting and shutting down if called will likely lead to less mistakes.

I didn't bet the flop because since it was blind vs blind, I figured he wouldn't put me on a great hand range. My goal on the flop was to avoid getting bluff CR'ed.

yeah reg i read your post before so i get why you didnt, makes sense

and thanks for clarifying saldirgan