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02-05-2024 , 08:57 AM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 122.8 BB
UTG+1: 116.4 BB
MP: 79 BB
MP+1: 147.5 BB
Hero (CO): 155.1 BB
BTN: 86.9 BB
SB: 103.9 BB
BB: 113 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 5 J 7
SB checks, Hero bets 6.3 BB, BTN raises to 12.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.3 BB

Turn: (35.2 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets 71.3 BB and is all-in,
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02-05-2024 , 09:35 AM
I think in general over-shoves at these stakes tend to be nutted.

Villain is undoubtedly a fish (broken stack, min-raise on the flop) but fish are allowed to flop sets too.

The turn means that you do beat some of their value range {J7s, 75s} as well as combo draws like 9c8c, 10c9c, 8c6c, 6c4c so it's a call in theory. I'd almost certainly call in game but I wouldn't be delighted about it.

What typically happens is that I talk myself into calling in these spots because I reason that there are so many draws that they could have. Then when I get shown 55 I realise that villain also realised that the board was super wet and shoved because of the fear of being drawn out on.
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02-05-2024 , 09:38 AM
Flop range of BTN for CO vs BTN formation (cant look at MW).

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We can do Turn Followup too

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Last edited by swerbs22; 02-05-2024 at 09:51 AM. Reason: filtered for fish and added turn range
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02-05-2024 , 10:03 AM
I think there's a chance that V has a worse hand than yours. Can't be upset when he flips over a set though. Fish gon' Fish

I call and GL.
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02-05-2024 , 10:10 AM
He has all kinds of flush draws, straight draws, worse 2 pairs, pair + draws, weak top pairs

Insta call
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02-06-2024 , 04:51 AM
Thx for the feedback.


I did make the call en ran into his pocket jacks.
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02-06-2024 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Brussels Sprout

What typically happens is that I talk myself into calling in these spots because I reason that there are so many draws that they could have. Then when I get shown 55 I realise that villain also realised that the board was super wet and shoved because of the fear of being drawn out on.

Yeah looking back now maybe 3oak is the threshold we should also be calling with and not 2 pair. Tough for me to fold these for sure, I just hate folding to fish.



when I first looked at this I discounted his sets and splits which led me to think that he is weaker than possible. But if his strength falls off around 3oak, I guess we should make sure we can beat that most of the time.

PS. was going to come back to this to actually say this before you posted results, been thinking about since i responded yesterday lol
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