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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($270.26) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.6% | Flop Agg: 41.5% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.2% | 3Bet: 11.5% | 4Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 326979]
CO ($262.11) [VPIP: 19.4% | PFR: 19.4% | AGG: 14.3% | Hands: 39]
BTN ($208.70) [VPIP: 34.2% | PFR: 26.3% | AGG: 31.6% | Hands: 39]
SB ($172.94) [VPIP: 87.5% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 40% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 75% | 3Bet: 20% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 60% | Hands: 8]
BB ($149) [VPIP: 34.8% | PFR: 17.4% | AGG: 46.7% | Flop Agg: 42.9% | Turn Agg: 60% | River Agg: 33.3% | 3Bet: 12.5% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 30% | Hands: 24]
UTG ($200) [VPIP: 21.7% | PFR: 4.3% | AGG: 45.5% | Hands: 23]

Dealt to Hero: J J

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $6, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Calls $5, BB Calls $4

Hero SPR on Flop: [7.94 effective]
Flop ($18): 8 5 7
SB Bets $4 (Rem. Stack: $162.94), BB Folds, HERO Raises To $20 (Rem. Stack: $244.26), SB Calls $16 (Rem. Stack: $146.94)

Turn ($58): 8 5 7 Q
SB Checks, HERO Bets $41.33 (Rem. Stack: $202.93), SB Calls $41.33 (Rem. Stack: $105.61)

River ($140.66): 8 5 7 Q 9
SB Bets $105.61 (allin), HERO ?

just curious why bet turn

I would just call flop, not sure what raise accomplishes.
Turn is good.
River is fold for me

Looks good on the whole, and pretty easy river fold. Doubtful he's turning a pair into a bluff, and his most likely holding is with a large amount of 6x after the turn x/c and flop donk and call.

If you call the flop you are getting exploited by the fish.

Unlikely Qx hit him and we want to get value from all worse pairs and draws.

Trouble is isn't it horrendous if he XR?

OTR it's hard to believe fish thinks he has much FE so anticipating value heavy range. Probably north of 70% on super connective card

unlikely? how come
actually i see now he prolly had a busted backdoor fd

Really?

I'm really only interested in river because flop/turn are standard but yeah calling is lower EV based on how fish construct ranges with Donk small lines. They also rarely 3bet so you are more incentivized to be aggressive.

JJ is ahead of almost everything on the flop and it's very clear what runouts are bad for you so most runouts will be easy to navigate.

He's also 87+ VPIP.

you are right - they always hit the turn overcard - we should have asked you before. You seem to be the best ever as you show in all your posts

It's easy as long as they don't stard donking

lol

Yeah flop seems like a mandatory raise to me, too many weird mergey leads with that small sizing to allow them to realize equity that cheaply

Not sure what the bluffs really are at the river, and v has a lot of 6x and might even think 2p is the nuts. We don’t need to be right very often but idk how much spazz we can expect with a donk river jam on this kind of board. I would fold as well

No one has talked about the distinct difference between 1 gap vs no gap straight draws, that makes me sad.

What is 1 gap SD?

Really?

Massive massive difference between

9875r

9876r

Not sure why, I would assume most of us don't have access to a CFP's MDA. If anything, I would think you should be glad that most players don't, since it means more money for you both at the tables and with coaching

4 to a straight on the board with no gap would presumably be bluffed less often than 4 to a straight with a gap, but that wouldn't matter if one were to assume that 4 to straight with a gap isn't bluffed often enough to begin with, which was my assessment

What is the massive massive difference coach?

I thought the 1 gap was overbluffed, but I had a hand today exact same board except the Q was an A.

I blocked the river with 2pr, villain shoved. I called and he had 66 for the straight.

Yeah but you have to take into account VPIP/PFR, not all fish are the same.

The problem is anyone with real knowledge just get's freerolled. You'll notice my blog was closed because I'm getting freerolled by regs who want to learn and then trolls who can sh.it on me indiscriminately. It's lose/lose. Go through every PGC thread and every good player abandoned their PGC because they understand this.

There are a ton of great players who got their start at 2p2 and almost none of them come back to visit, why do you think that is?

I remember Chips around 4 years ago when he was crushing 500nl, came back to give advice and he immediately got blasted by a scrub troll. Needless to say he never came back. The problem with this forum is they don't distinguish between great advice/good advice/mediocre advice.

Nah I'm good man. Have fun folding though.

What is the point in bringing that up if you are not willing to discuss it?

Hasn't that always been the case for poker strategy forums? Seems like people who legit crush at a level where you can make serious money have always had their strat discussions primarily in private with people in their network. Most people here, if they're even winning players, most likely have a sub-5bb/100 wr and play below 50nl

I agree that after a while it just doesn't make sense, and especially since the nature of public forums means the worst types of people can freely participate lol. But you have also kind of gone out of your way to give people pieces of this info for free. Your posts are the primary reason I even still visit the strat forums other than just pure boredom, because typically there has been good discussion that I personally would be able to learn something from. That isn't the case for most HHs that are posted here

So while I totally understand where you're coming from, I also don't think it makes a ton of sense to make a strategy post where the entire crux of the discussion revolves around this MDA knowledge that you are apparently reluctant to share

There are a million straights and 2 pair. Not calling.