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Interesting spot with TT Interesting spot with TT

06-19-2024 , 04:37 PM
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NL Holdem 0.1(BB)
HJ ($9.85) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 23.1% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 13]
HERO ($16.39) [VPIP: 29.4% | PFR: 24.4% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.3% | Turn Agg: 33.9% | River Agg: 37.9% | 3Bet: 11.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 60% | 4Bet: 13.6% | Hands: 346804]
BTN ($10.30) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 30% | AGG: 66.7% | Hands: 10]
SB ($9.90) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 13]
BB ($10) [VPIP: 30% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 28.6% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 8]

Dealt to Hero: T T

HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.30, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Raises To $1.30, HERO Calls $1

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.28 effective]
Flop ($2.65): 4 7 9
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.84 (Rem. Stack: $14.25), BB Calls $0.84 (Rem. Stack: $7.84)

Turn ($4.33): 4 7 9 9
BB Checks, HERO Bets $2.53 (Rem. Stack: $11.72), BB Raises To $7.84 (allin), HERO ?
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06-19-2024 , 06:27 PM
Yeah it's a weird one, you wouldn't expect your average 10nl player to have many 9s in their BB 3bet range as hands like A9s, K9s, T9s etc are probs all just flatting.

Is it just always either AK, AQ or slowplayed AA? Can't see anything else taking this line. Maybe KK too I guess?
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06-19-2024 , 06:28 PM
Maybe re-raise villain pre? But then set mining is ok also.

Safe to say based on pf raise, so 1010 - AA are in the range of hands. If villain had over pairs on the flop you would think there would be a bet on the flop, yet he check called.

Not a Common line for that flop. So maybe AK/AQ spades?

If AK AQ spades then turn shove does not seem out of line, Same goes for any 9 in his handÂ…..any boat would check the turn usually.

He is repping the 9 (even AK/AQ spades still a good shove imo).

Tough spot. You are getting over 2-1 so calling is OK but it also feels like burning money in this spot since our margin for error is razor thin. I would call

Is folding so bad here?

Last edited by PairPressure; 06-19-2024 at 06:55 PM.
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06-19-2024 , 06:57 PM
BB 3bet 13bb vs CO might be very underbluffed at microstakes, I've seen players who know the GTO size is very big but still use a very narrow range. But I imagine you know the actual numbers much better than me!

Too bad we block all the Ts suited broadways, some of which (all?) surely make nice bluffs here.
On the other hand most players will find the flop x/call and turn x/shove with AsQs and AsKs.
If they 3bet properly they also have Js8s.

This flop is not-so-good for BB, you flop 3 sets and they flop none. They are supposed to check pretty often and I don't think it's too hard to find the occasional check/call with overpairs. And then on the turn the 9 is nice because it removes combos of your most frequent set, they check/jam.

All in all without more info I would conclude the combination of people in general not 3betting junky suited hands from BB and us having Ts makes it a fold.
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06-19-2024 , 07:35 PM
There's almost no value in this line as BB imo, because not many 9x 3b, and I don't think people will get to the turn this way with overpairs. If they do I think they're usually going to xc because they're afraid of trips.
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06-19-2024 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AskZandar
There's almost no value in this line as BB imo, because not many 9x 3b, and I don't think people will get to the turn this way with overpairs. If they do I think they're usually going to xc because they're afraid of trips.
My take is basically the opposite of this. If I have 9x here and BB has an overpair, BB is always getting stacked at this SPR.
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06-20-2024 , 08:16 AM
Why are you betting this size ott?

Most nl10 regs won't call down with AK/AQ and there isn't much else you can get value from.
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06-20-2024 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
Why are you betting this size ott?

Most nl10 regs won't call down with AK/AQ and there isn't much else you can get value from.
Yeah it's a switcharoo hand ill reveal the rest in the PGC. There's so many important concepts in this hand.
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06-20-2024 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Yeah it's a switcharoo hand ill reveal the rest in the PGC.
Sorry, where? "PGC" ?
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06-20-2024 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by boulgakov
Sorry, where? "PGC" ?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...ition-1836744/
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06-21-2024 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Thanks, the discussion there is too detailed for me but at least someone mentions having Th is better, I was not completely wrong saying we would prefer not having Ts.

And villain is not your typical 10nl player, in fact it's DDP, which is a pretty important infomation you want to have in Hero's situation...

edit : did you have KK ?
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