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Old 04-28-2009, 12:05 AM   #1
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ImNotSoGood is being OUTRAGEOUS

We have been playing our msnl hu match for 3.5 hours , i didnt even want to play tonight because i wanted to go to sleep 3.5 hours ago as I'm playing EPT monte carlo tomorrow which is now in 5 hours. I just want to go to sleep and resume later, he refuses to pause because weve started and stopped a bunch of times already. I think its absurd that i'm staying up all night to do this when im playing a 15k soon.

Can anyone back me up here?
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:11 AM   #2
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Re: ImNotSoGood is being OUTRAGEOUS

jesus wtf
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:12 AM   #3
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ridiculously gay by him, that's pretty unreal.

if he doesn't care about his rep in the poker community, i don't think u can do anything about it though. shouldn't have played tonight.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:13 AM   #4
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Re: ImNotSoGood is being OUTRAGEOUS

he was going to push it as a forfeit if i didnt, big jim said we can have 1 - 2 week extetion, i told him he can pick anytime thats not between 6.a.m. -10.a.m, or while im in the live tounramnet, he refuses to compromise
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:14 AM   #5
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I don't what I'd do.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:14 AM   #6
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its 6:15 a.m. here now, hes gonna push a forfeit if i leave...

this is so unreal
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:15 AM   #7
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how can another 2+2er be so scummy,

i think hes just trying to squeak out some ev hoping i'll play worse ort eventually just forfeit
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:15 AM   #8
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someone in same hotel who can play? if he's gonna be a dick about it...can't prove it's not you playing.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:26 AM   #9
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very scummy/immature/d-baggish behavior of him, find someone just as good and play him if he wants to do it this way.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:29 AM   #10
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someone in same hotel who can play? if he's gonna be a dick about it...can't prove it's not you playing.
yea, because if only you and your friends know about it then it's not really cheating.

i agree he should be nice and pause, but why'd you start if you wanted to get some sleep tonight? these are known to potentially take forever, and if the money is important to him, i guess i can understand why he might not want to stop if he thinks he has the momentum or a good read on how you're playing. as per the rules it's not really fair to him to force him to pause.

it's obviously dick of him, but that doesn't make cheating okay, and it's pretty sad that some of you assume that's a standard response.

it seems like it's almost over anyways, so hopefully it works out and karma comes in handy tomorrow

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Old 04-28-2009, 12:31 AM   #11
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Re: ImNotSoGood is being OUTRAGEOUS

yeah this seems pretty scummy, gl with this.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:54 AM   #12
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i was never considering doing anything cheating related, i just wanted to pause and get sleep before playing a 15k

either way, i beat him, and i hope he gets run over by a lawn mower, / if anybody talks to him please tell him how unresonable, unfair, and rediculous he was being. how uncharacteristic to 2+2, unnatured to the msnl hu oturney firendlyness community, and overall scum he is
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:12 AM   #13
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i was never considering doing anything cheating related, i just wanted to pause and get sleep before playing a 15k

either way, i beat him, and i hope he gets run over by a lawn mower, / if anybody talks to him please tell him how unresonable, unfair, and rediculous he was being. how uncharacteristic to 2+2, unnatured to the msnl hu oturney firendlyness community, and overall scum he is
he just got served.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:43 AM   #14
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Re: ImNotSoGood is being OUTRAGEOUS

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Old 04-28-2009, 01:45 AM   #15
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:47 AM   #16
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why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:49 AM   #17
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:08 AM   #18
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NotSoClassy amirite?
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:20 AM   #19
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why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:22 AM   #20
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sounds pretty scummy, will be interesting to hear his defense/side of the story
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:27 AM   #22
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ImNotSoGoodatNotBeingAdick amirite?
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:34 AM   #23
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ya that's pretty bad ethics. espeically against regs
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:42 AM   #24
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:49 AM   #25
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LIAR!

I love how you guys judge me as w/e from just one side of the story.

Zugwat, you're good at propoganda and lies/spinning the truth.

You wanna tell 2p2 the truth or should I? Obv you prefer to lie and make yourself
look like the victim, but I'm going to make you look like a moron now....

Here are some lines from mine and Zugwat's aim convos. I'll explain as it goes on.


-Pretty common convos at the beginning, but as time goes on things change...

April 12th, 2009

Zugwat(1:08:26 AM):but you got my aim now so we'll find a time
ImNotSoGood(2:04:47 AM):sounds good, would you want to play tonight possibly?
Zugwat(2:04:56 AM):nah im pretty tired
ImNotSoGood(2:05:31 AM):yeah, im kinda tired too actually, what about tomorrow afternoon?
Zugwat(2:05:49 AM):yea possibly


April 13th, 2009

ImNotSoGood(6:50:58 PM):hey
Zugwat(6:51:20 PM):hey
ImNotSoGood(6:51:34 PM):wanna play 2dat?
Zugwat(6:53:31 PM):maybe later, but playing scoops right now
ImNotSoGood(6:53:38 PM)k
ImNotSoGood(9:52:32 PM):lemme know when ur done mtting and well see if we wanna play
Zugwat(9:53:05 PM):i dont think im gonna wanna play today

ImNotSoGood(5:04:28 PM):would u wanna play today?
ImNotSoGood(5:04:30 PM):lemme know...
ImNotSoGood(9:44:17 PM):can we figure out when we're gonna play our match dude, i have finals coming up and need to know whats up Zugwat(9:48:23 PM):hey ive been relaly busy with games running
Zugwat(9:48:27 PM):i'll hit you up in a little
ImNotSoGood(9:50:34 PM):cool, gl



April 14th - We play for about an hour and Zugwat has to go, I agree. At this point Zugwat is up 1-0 after getting it in bad vs me and doing what he does best.

Later that day....

ImNotSoGood(7:34:47 PM):hey
Zugwat(7:34:52 PM):hey
ImNotSoGood(7:35:50 PM):would you wanna finish up our match?
Zugwat(7:36:03 PM):i cant today or tomorrow
ImNotSoGood(7:36:50 PM)k


.....4.20/09

ImNotSoGood(7:01:39 PM):hey,would u be rdy to finish our match?
Zugwat(7:05:46 PM):hey
Zugwat(7:05:46 PM):ive been playing all day day 2 of the ept, im real tired and need to get sleep before playing tomorrow
Zugwat(7:05:47 PM):i can play whenever i bust the tournament
ImNotSoGood(7:06:22 PM)k gl

He says hell play when he busts the tournament....but...

4/22/09
Zugwat(7:14:44 PM):im 4 tabeling ike at the moment
ImNotSoGood: When u free up?
Zugwat(7:16:06 PM):possibly but im rpetty tired
Zugwat(7:16:09 PM):and gonna try and play for a while ????
ImNotSoGood: It's just 1 table dude, we've been in the middle of the match for a while now, lets just get it out of the way.
ImNotSoGood: I won't really have the time to in a few days, I have finals...
Zugwat(7:19:59 PM):dude im sorry i cant right now
Zugwat(7:20:07 PM):and im tilted from blowing the tournamnet playing that match is the last thing i wanna do righ tnow
Zugwat(7:20:10 PM):we'lll find a time
Zugwat(7:20:11 PM):dont worry
ImNotSoGood(1:57:05 AM): if you relax and figure u can fit 1 more table in let me know... Yeah, well find a time but it will most likely be during finals, and I just want to be able to focus only on my work then.
Zugwat(8:14:46 PM)k
Zugwat(8:14:51 PM):we can finish it in a little bit
Zugwat(8:14:58 PM):internet is too bad to 4 table 50 - 100


Zugwat(9:01:17 PM):man
Zugwat(9:01:19 PM):im really tired
Zugwat(9:01:23 PM):i just dont think i can play
Zugwat(9:01:25 PM):tonight
ImNotSoGood(9:01:55 PM):ahhhhh

Zugwat(9:01:57 PM):maybe half hour
Zugwat(9:02:07 PM):if thats worth doing
ImNotSoGood(9:02:17 PM):yeah, better that than nothing
Zugwat(9:02:22 PM)k


--Within a few hands he disconnects and doesn't come back, i sit out waiting for 40mins+ (I offerred that we sit out for each other when sum1 d/c's.)
No PM, no IM, didn't get sum1 to IM me, nothing. The next day i get an IM saying:

Zugwat(3:12:02 PM):hey, im 100% not making this up, the internet cut out and it was not coming back on
ImNotSoGood(3:14:34 PM):its all good
ImNotSoGood(3:15:50 PM):so, would u wanna continue where we left off last night?
ImNotSoGood(3:31:19 PM):?
ImNotSoGood(4:25:27 PM):hit me up when your back

No apology, no effort to play again, very suspicios D/C right after he changes his mind about playing...

Later that night: Zugwat(10:25 PM): yo, im actually about to sign off, and go to sleep, can play for sure this weekend

Again he doesn't stay true to his word.


4/26/09

We play for 40 mins or so until I come back and am leading 3200-800. Zugwat immediately says

Zugwat(8:59:11 PM): yo man its 6 in the morning here
Zugwat(8:59:14 PM): were gonna have to pause it again
Zugwat(9:00:59 PM): we gotta pause, ok?

4/27/09

ImNotSoGood(8:22:46 AM): rdy 2 finish the match?
Zugwat(8:22:58 AM): just arrived in monte carlo, going to dinner now

ImNotSoGood(12:53:49 PM): figure out when we are finishing this match today, im not willing to wait past the deadline
Zugwat(12:54:08 PM): this is dan on steves , live 100/200 game running
ImNotSoGood(12:54:49 PM): hey, u mind passing the msg to him
Zugwat(12:55:28 PM): ya prob gonna be a while tho
Zugwat(12:55:34 PM): and playing tomorrow
Zugwat(12:55:43 PM): im heading out, will refer the message

......


Zugwat(8:17:32 PM): we can finish wednesday
ImNotSoGood(8:17:39 PM): na
ImNotSoGood(8:17:49 PM): ive been following your schedule
ImNotSoGood(8:17:52 PM): the whole time
ImNotSoGood(8:17:53 PM): and
ImNotSoGood(8:18:06 PM): been letting the match pause so many times
ImNotSoGood(8:18:13 PM): when i didnt even have to
Zugwat(8:18:17 PM): this is not true, ive been trying to play when you can also
ImNotSoGood(8:18:29 PM): youve been quitting the match every time
ImNotSoGood(8:18:34 PM): i told you i have finals
ImNotSoGood(8:18:39 PM): but obv u dont care
ImNotSoGood(8:18:48 PM): but are thinking about your schedule
Zugwat(8:18:50 PM): what do you want me to do?
Zugwat(8:18:54 PM): whens a better time for you
ImNotSoGood(8:19:23 PM): somewhere within the next 4 hours, which is the deadline
ImNotSoGood(8:19:37 PM): i let you have your way basically every time
Zugwat(8:19:46 PM): ok well im playing monte carlo tomorrow and its 2 am, so im not playing tonight sorry
ImNotSoGood(8:19:55 PM): ok, then you forfeit
Zugwat(8:19:59 PM): pick another time
Zugwat(8:20:19 PM): no?
ImNotSoGood(8:20:20 PM): ive been trying to get this done for 2 weeks now
ImNotSoGood(8:20:34 PM): and i never had to agree to pause
ImNotSoGood(8:20:36 PM): just so you know
Zugwat(8:21:36 PM): if you will multitable like everyone else i will play now and sacrififce my sleep before playing a $15,000 tournament
ImNotSoGood(8:22:14 PM): i played monte carlo last year too, its not even an early start time
Zugwat(8:22:26 PM): but im not playing for 4 hours so if you refuse to play both sngs then we will have to play another time
Zugwat(8:22:31 PM): 12 p.m.
ImNotSoGood(8:22:35 PM): and i gave you so many opportunities to play
Zugwat(8:22:35 PM): and i gotta register
ImNotSoGood(8:22:47 PM): ok first of all
ImNotSoGood(8:22:51 PM): i dont have to play both sngs
ImNotSoGood(8:22:55 PM): if i play a 2nd table
ImNotSoGood(8:22:58 PM): its -EV for me
Zugwat(8:23:20 PM): every single match ive played, played at least 2 at once
Zugwat(8:23:20 PM): some we just fired up all 3 at onces
ImNotSoGood(8:23:31 PM): 3 at once from start is fine
ImNotSoGood(8:23:44 PM): but now
ImNotSoGood(8:23:47 PM): when im up
ImNotSoGood(8:23:52 PM): 3200 800,
ImNotSoGood(8:23:55 PM): a 2nd table
ImNotSoGood(8:24:04 PM): will decrease my avg stack
Zugwat(8:24:16 PM): ok so you are loosing like $50 in ev?
Zugwat(8:24:20 PM): howbout i send you $50
ImNotSoGood(8:24:24 PM): 50$ in ev?
Zugwat(8:24:24 PM): and then we two table
ImNotSoGood(8:24:30 PM): u nuts?



Angleshooting? Or simply not very good @ math/logic
.....



ImNotSoGood(8:27:26 PM): well, im not willing to play you tomorrow or any day after thatImNotSoGood(8:27:28 PM): i got finals
ImNotSoGood(8:27:34 PM): and final papers
ImNotSoGood(8:27:36 PM): and i told you this
ImNotSoGood(8:27:59 PM): i tried to be nice
ImNotSoGood(8:28:16 PM): but your egocentric attitude toward this match is just not cool
Zugwat(8:28:17 PM): i need a ****** account
Zugwat(8:28:22 PM): cuz i cant get into mine
Zugwat(8:28:25 PM): and im not being egocentric
ImNotSoGood(8:28:34 PM): whether you are meaning to be, or not
ImNotSoGood(8:28:36 PM): you are/were



Hopefully you can see why I decided not to pause for Zugwat. First off, before we started I let him know that I was planning to finish the match. I wanted to finish before finals week started, but Zugwat is only self-interested.

Zugwat also chose to stop and start the matches whenever he wanted, including times where I had momentum. I was tired of this, and decided to play the match on my terms for once, and not agree to stop the match just because Zugwat felt like it.

MC EPT or not, he knew what he was getting into, and played. The match started getting long, and he started whining. All I wanted was to play the damn match all the way through and get it over with, without Zug constantly stopping and starting mini-sessions whenever it benefitted him.

I was concerned with one thing only, and that was to not play during finals week. Obv Zug didn't care what I was concerned with, so in turn, I did not return any favors to him.

Oh, and for the ******s who say that I wanted him to forfeit. Who entered this tournament for the money? Seriously....

Oh, and I made it known that if the match got to the point where the EPT MC was actually starting for him, i would postpone just because it's out of his control.

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