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03-11-2024 , 09:11 PM

billylean

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Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 443

so i understand this was not a wise strategic decision but i will try to explain my thinking basically i called turn with the intention of trying to take it away otr also i had a bit of a draw. then when he bet so small otr i figured f it maybe i have him beat...? maybe not so great after all!

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 102.5 BB
SB: 80.5 BB
BB: 80 BB
UTG: 207.5 BB
CO: 34 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (12.5 BB, 2 players) 7

UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) J

UTG bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (32.5 BB, 2 players) T

UTG bets 7.5 BB

hero..?

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03-11-2024 , 09:41 PM

Stumeister

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Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 145

If you know it was a bad play what are you posting this for?

Bad play, confirmed.

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03-11-2024 , 10:59 PM

ColliePoker

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Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 123

your 3bet is too small. The fastest improvement you can take away is to 3b the correct sizes IP and OOP.

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03-11-2024 , 11:00 PM

billylean

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Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 443

you wanna know why? ill tell you: simply put i wanted to see if somebody could help me figure out how to avoid making the same mistake twice

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03-11-2024 , 11:02 PM

billylean

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Originally Posted by ColliePoker

your 3bet is too small. The fastest improvement you can take away is to 3b the correct sizes IP and OOP.

can you explain further

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03-12-2024 , 01:29 AM

aner0

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Originally Posted by billylean

can you explain further

scroll up with your mousewheel

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03-12-2024 , 05:45 AM

Cash Beast Ezra

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,267

Bigger pre. 3x IP is normal.

Turn call is fine. You have a double gunshot and are drawing to the nuts. You have a lot of implied odds on a K river in particular. You are also in position so can bluff rivers you miss if villain checks to you.

You can raise river as played. You have more Kx and AK than he does and people do a poor job of putting enough strong hands in their block betting range so you should get a lot of folds from his likely 2 pair/set heavy range. Calling I think is the worst option.

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03-12-2024 , 01:14 PM

Haizemberg93

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Yes bigger pre. I think cbet is better you fold out low pp and AJ.
Turn call is fine, river is fold to me, you can jam if you want.

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03-12-2024 , 04:29 PM

Kendoo

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Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 741

3betsize is ridiculous. People already told you this about 20 times+
You are either a troll or just not smart enough for poker (NL0,02!!!!)

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03-12-2024 , 05:16 PM

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FreakDaddy

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Originally Posted by Kendoo

3betsize is ridiculous. People already told you this about 20 times+
You are either a troll or just not smart enough for poker (NL0,02!!!!)

Bro.... come on man. No need for that.

OP, think you know the 3-bet issue. Turn call is OK, and river is a fold. The sizing looks like he's trying to bait you.

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03-14-2024 , 04:52 PM

#11

billylean

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Originally Posted by aner0

scroll up with your mousewheel

no you got it all wrong my friend: i want to know about the difference btwn 3bet sizing as it pertains to position!!!

and you call yourself a coach

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03-14-2024 , 05:03 PM

#12

Kendoo

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Originally Posted by billylean

no you got it all wrong my friend: i want to know about the difference btwn 3bet sizing as it pertains to position!!!

and you call yourself a coach

what a trainwreck you are

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03-14-2024 , 06:26 PM

#13

billylean

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Originally Posted by Kendoo

what a trainwreck you are

still take you $

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03-14-2024 , 06:57 PM

#14

Kendoo

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Originally Posted by billylean

still take you $

sure NL0,02 pro - muahhhh

Your bankroll is not enough for 100bb vs my stakes you clown

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03-14-2024 , 07:31 PM

#15

billylean

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Time to put ur money where your mouth is

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03-14-2024 , 10:48 PM

#16

Kendoo

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Originally Posted by billylean

Time to put ur money where your mouth is

I would need a huge mouth

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03-14-2024 , 11:37 PM

#17

billylean

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Originally Posted by Kendoo

I would need a huge mouth

my mouth is actually disproportionately large relative to the rest of my face

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03-15-2024 , 02:32 AM

#18

bigdave2304

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Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 434

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Originally Posted by aner0

scroll up with your mousewheel

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Originally Posted by billylean

no you got it all wrong my friend: i want to know about the difference btwn 3bet sizing as it pertains to position!!!

and you call yourself a coach

We 3b larger OOP because our post flop EV is lower due to positional disadvantage and we're more incentivized to take it down preflop. Vs a 2.5bb open I go 8bb IP and 11bb OOP.
People are going to be more willing to help you if you're not so defensive. Anero gave you the right advice, there's no need to be a prick to him just because he didn't elaborate exactly the way you wanted.

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03-15-2024 , 06:05 AM

#19

Kendoo

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Originally Posted by billylean

my mouth is actually disproportionately large relative to the rest of my face

You are a clown?

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03-15-2024 , 06:56 AM

#20

billylean

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Originally Posted by bigdave2304

yea thanks i didnt know anything about that

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03-17-2024 , 02:41 PM

#21

dude45

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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy

Bro.... come on man. No need for that.

OP, think you know the 3-bet issue. Turn call is OK, and river is a fold. The sizing looks like he's trying to bait you.

I dont know Kendoos' words are harsh but truthful imo. The problem with op isnt that they need to improve that could be said of all of us. The problem is OP is to stubborn and arrogant and seems to lack the ability to self reflect and realize they need to improve. They cant beat 2nl but have somehow convinced themselves they're smarter then everyone else. You're wasting your time giving serious advice as it will be ignored if it isn't inline with what they already believe

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