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09-03-2009 , 08:00 PM
Pot is multiway. I recently have lost just over 100bb through getting it in real light versus villain. Opener is a laggro reg running 32/21. Villain is an aggro tag-type running 23/18. I'm probably viewed as quite laggish, but I believe I was playing ~26/21 @ this table. BB is a mega fish who I'm assuming is the main cause for the table forming, though another fish was to his right as well (just left). I feel flop and turn seem quite standard because he could be betting worse or barreling. He probably views me as a station though based on recent history, so I doubt he is bluffing river. Is my line fine? Should I call river as played?


Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em $1 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $1227.00
Hero (BTN): $1442.05
SB: $600.00
BB: $1342.30
UTG: $1198.00
MP: $1219.45

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with J Q
1 fold, MP raises to $22, CO calls $22, Hero calls $22, 1 fold, BB calls $16

Flop: ($97.00) K Q Q (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $66, Hero calls $66, BB folds, MP folds

Turn: ($229.00) 9 (2 players)
CO bets $165, Hero calls $165

River: ($559.00) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $475, Hero folds
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09-03-2009 , 08:28 PM
prob fold considering TJ got there on the turn and CO isn't just going to bet into 3 people with a Kx and then decide he wants to bluff it on the river.

It's just his betting range on flop is quite narrow to TJ, Kx, and Qx.

I would puke if he would do this with QT but that bet sizing is quite large and I don't think he'd bet taht big with QT.
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09-03-2009 , 08:36 PM
Can't he be value-betting worse? I guess if his value range looks like 99, TJ, KK, QJ, AQ, KQ, and QJ, and he's never bluffing, it's a fold.
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09-03-2009 , 09:10 PM
solid
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09-03-2009 , 09:12 PM
so do u have no calling range on the river? Or 2 combos of Q9s?
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09-03-2009 , 09:15 PM
I don't understand, so people wouldn't bet AA or AK three streets here?
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09-03-2009 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MCizz
I don't understand, so people wouldn't bet AA or AK three streets here?
lol
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09-03-2009 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MCizz
I don't understand, so people wouldn't bet AA or AK three streets here?
1) river value bet with either of those hands is thin.

2) assuming CO flats enough combo's of those hands pre flop to outweigh when he has us crushed is insane imo.
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09-03-2009 , 11:49 PM
bet sizing would make me fold, gf imo
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09-03-2009 , 11:50 PM
agreed nf
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09-04-2009 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2SHAE
so do u have no calling range on the river? Or 2 combos of Q9s?
2 combos of Q9s and 6 combos of KQs vs 10 - 20 combos of AQ QJ and QT depending on how you play.

i think its a pretty easy fold bc even though folding QJ might be exploitable based on your range considering just the river action, theres no way it is based on the ranges you both get to the river with. and since most people have a close to non existant bluffing range in villains shoes makes this all the easier to lay down.
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09-04-2009 , 03:21 AM
I could definitely have KQ, Q9 here, and I might call w/ JT. I think I have little if any raising range on any streets up to the river, mainly because considering how strong a raise would look.
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09-04-2009 , 07:15 AM
WP, i like the fold
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09-04-2009 , 08:01 AM
davista folds >1pr

wat
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09-04-2009 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 2SHAE
so do u have no calling range on the river? Or 2 combos of Q9s?
alternately, you could have no folding range, because that wouldn't be exploitable or anything
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09-04-2009 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by terp
alternately, you could have no folding range, because that wouldn't be exploitable or anything
Love this comment!

Hate your flop-play when its so sick multiway. There should be alot of JT's running around in a 4way pot, especially when two of the villains ar LAGs. You just lost a buyin, which might make people stack of lighter versus you, I say its a clear raise.

I'm, if playing my A game, folding river.

Edit: didn't see how deep you was. I suck at deep-play, so I erase my comment about hating your flopplay.
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09-05-2009 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 2SHAE
so do u have no calling range on the river? Or 2 combos of Q9s?
w....t...f? Are you insinuating he should call with the worst hand just to be unexploitable?
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