random check up, villain seems a fish, 5th hand or so.. calling turn standard? river is pretty meh, but can't he have lots of random crap?


BB: $302.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $594.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BTN/SB with T 9
Hero raises to $18, BB calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 5 K 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($36.00) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36.00, BB raises to $72, Hero calls $36

River: ($180.00) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $100.00, Hero calls $100

3/4 tables nl50/100 stars/full tilt pm me

thanks, good stuff

Im folding turn, no need to create more variance than you need if its a fishy. If you call turn you probably need to call river too if you got some good reasons to call turn.

i wish i was chirs hansen, must be a fun job

Yeah this.

won't fish often enough randomly checkraise Qcx?

in my experience today
fish c/r turn = nuts

Sure sometimes they will but I think most of the time they wont. I dont know if they even would c/r with Qcx or Acx but it prolly depends on if he is aggressive or not.

Im just folding and moving on cause its just stupid to create more variance than you need when you finally get a fish on your table. Against a reg its obv a different situation.

This. Fish minraises on turn is almost always the goods i just think you create more variance than you need to. do you have more info on the player?

@mokobo: go on msn

Only if fish shoves river with his entire turn c/r air range. We don't know if he will.

True. But we should know that if we are going to call the turn. And if we dont know if he will shove his turn c/r range we have one less good reason to call the turn.

Bet flop or check turn

yeah bet flop seems fine but vs fish i wouldnt mind a bet on turn if you check back flop tbh
thoughts on why you would have to check back both then?

hope i dont get too much hate for this thread because its HU and stats obv dont matter that much but i recently updated my HUD for NL HU play (have been playing 6max PLO before) and obv colour ranges differ a lot

so i tried to define some and realized that for some values i dont have a clue at all what seems fish/solid/good

im obv aware that "optimal" stats are very dependant on opponents/gameflow etc but i just want to use a 3 colour sceme to define them at least a bit (and it just looks better w/ colours )

so basically i used 3 colour to define the stat:

green: fishy (both too tight and too loose)
orange: normal/solid
red: good/aggressive/optimal

so here we go (and if u spot any leaks, go ahead and name them plz )

Hud reads:
VPIP SB, VPIP BB, Steal, fold to steal
3bet, fold to 3bet, 4bet%, fold to 4bet
cbet flop, cbet turn, cbet river, donkbet flop
fold to cbet flop, turn, river, fold to donkbet flop
AF total, flop, turn, river
WTS, W$WSF, check raise, # hands



im obv willing to upload and send this hud to anyone participating and helping me in this thread!

im especially lost on VPIPSB/BB, steal values, fold to 3bet and c/r

thanks

I think betting the turn is a must once the flop goes check check and the turn is another club.

I certainly wouldn't call the river, and I really don't mind folding the turn either but I know in real time I wouldn't.

I would just check the turn back against an unknown fish. As played I snapfold the turn

this, why are we checking the turn back? not close imo.

anyone wanna swap 5-10% in wcoop 1? lmk

o **** that starts today?

started 20 mins ago... $215 6max... of course i blow at 6 max and never read the description before entering... sweet.

argh looks like its time to light some money on fire

you got a shot at redeeming yourself in the 9 max 2 mill guaranteed later, and tbh i think most hu players will adapt better to six max.

once you get deep in six max events when the antes come in it just turns into a high variance e peen contest

meh, bit hungover today so doubt i'd last the later event if i ever went deep so am stuck with this nonsense I'm def in the "better at" FR>>>>>HU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>6 max catagory. anyway, gl anyone who plays any of the events, they are a sure fire way to tilt ur balls off. gl gl.