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08-27-2010 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PaperWalls
Where can i see the results from their matches?
HSDB is the only place currently accurately recording it afaik. FTP doesn't have a page up yet for it.

Gonna be messy once it's running a few days though, providing it's still only available on HSDB
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08-27-2010 , 11:03 AM
sick hand lol
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08-27-2010 , 11:06 AM
durrr is just getin owned
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08-27-2010 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
You guys have to realise that working for a startup will likely end in failure. The vast majority of them have an amazing idea/business plan/marketing idea, but most of them just don't pan out for the basic reason that its hard to run a successful business. The failure rate for the first 3 years is very high. It's one of those things like "i'm gonna start my own business" or "i'm gonna buy property because it always goes up in value", where people don't really know about the downsides or what factors go into making a successful decision.

Now, thats not to say that Steamliner hasn't researched the company or that its actually one of the minority which has huge potential to be successful, its just that people should be aware of the risks and know that getting into a startup isn't necessarily a great opportunity. I am all for people diversifying their skill set and am of the opinion that a lot of poker players would be better off in the long term getting out of poker now (rather than at a later stage) and starting to gain skills that will help them in the corporate world, but imo working at a startup will likely hamper that ability, just because there's not as much supervision and they're not up to date or can't afford the latest technologies.

Just my 2 cents, i say this having spent the first 3 years of my professional life working for 2 IT startups. The offering of stock options/IPO is pretty standard too, there actually IS massive upside there, as previously stated though, the majority of the time you're going to be using them to wipe your ass.
Was going to say a lot of these things VERY well written, only part I'm not clear on is the part about startups not being able to afford the latest technologies and related thing about supervision. But dead-on post.
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08-27-2010 , 11:08 AM
Wish I bet on jungleman. Durrrr not making as many adjustments, especially w bet sizing pre. Then post flop it seems Jungleman in complete control and putting durrrr in spots where its pretty difficult to make the right decision.

Last edited by fjbourne; 08-27-2010 at 11:11 AM. Reason: clarity
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08-27-2010 , 11:09 AM
How many hands will be played?
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08-27-2010 , 11:13 AM
^
The challenge is 50k hands. ~5.2k hands and +314k for jungle at HSDB live tracking and jungleman hasn't played any other tables in last 24h so all hands are vs durrrr. Not sure how accurate HSDB is.

I've probably lost like 10 last bets I've had so one time gogogogo jungle!
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08-27-2010 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hitmeratkid
How many hands will be played?
50k
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08-27-2010 , 11:21 AM
i hope the challenge ends fast. i'm guessing there'll be less action due to all the railing.
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08-27-2010 , 11:23 AM
The story with LIQUIDMAN2 continued. He showed up today again, i didn't get back on time to the computer, he left, and another guy from same location, which is Malta, sits down and plays exactly like the first one. SN is TUTSNCAMON. If you'll check them out on PTR, you will see that it's exactly same person.
So I've been quiet, while he's been coolering and sucking out on me until i've busted his account. I've told him that i'm waiting for him to redeposit, he said ok and left, then the first guy shows up and starts coolering/sucking out shyt out of me again, earning me more and more Sklansky bucks. And ofc HNR beeing up 3 buyins at the end.

Not even gonna post hands this time, i puke just from seeing it, cos overall he coolered and sucked out on me for overall 30 buy-ins, HNR twice in actual money, for ~5 and ~3 buyins.
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08-27-2010 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit
Was going to say a lot of these things VERY well written, only part I'm not clear on is the part about startups not being able to afford the latest technologies and related thing about supervision. But dead-on post.
Both comments only apply to the IT industry, but per my experience

Technologies:
A lot of startups aren't willing to invest the money into licensing for products. The vast majority of startups will use free technologies like PHP and Java because they're freely distributed and you are allowed develop commercial products with them, whereas a lot of big companies now want experience with C#, which you'd only really have commercial experience with from the licensed version of Visual Studio, and tools like Accurev or Resharper. Even trying to learn these technologies on your own at home from the trial versions will be very limiting as its tough to create a believeable developlement environment. Basically you limit your options when using free technologies even though most of the development approaches are uniform across OO languages.

Supervision:
A lot of startups, because of the smaller workforces, don't have the same peer mentoring processes that a lot of bigger corporations have. They usually want the person to just be able to come in and fend for themselves and be able to get the job done with little input. Again, its very possible to perform in this capacity, especially if you're a self starter and enjoy developing/learning in your own free time, its just your growth as a developer would be stunted compared to if you were being mentored and code reviewed by senior developers. Its akin to trying to learn poker from just reading 2+2, compared to being coached and watching videos.
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08-27-2010 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PureDiesel
The story with LIQUIDMAN2 continued. He showed up today again, i didn't get back on time to the computer, he left, and another guy from same location, which is Malta, sits down and plays exactly like the first one. SN is TUTSNCAMON. If you'll check them out on PTR, you will see that it's exactly same person.
So I've been quiet, while he's been coolering and sucking out on me until i've busted his account. I've told him that i'm waiting for him to redeposit, he said ok and left, then the first guy shows up and starts coolering/sucking out shyt out of me again, earning me more and more Sklansky bucks. And ofc HNR beeing up 3 buyins at the end.

Not even gonna post hands this time, i puke just from seeing it.
lol epic
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08-27-2010 , 11:30 AM
jungle is on the rampage... hahaha

I don't think hu nl is dwan's best game
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08-27-2010 , 11:38 AM
gogo durrrrr
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08-27-2010 , 11:39 AM
[x] railing

gogogogoog junglee!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-27-2010 , 11:43 AM
Hey guys i didnt want to create a new thread for this but can someone give me a good strat vs a player who minbets 100% of buttons
and plays fairly decent postflop

TY
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08-27-2010 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
Both comments only apply to the IT industry, but per my experience

Technologies:
A lot of startups aren't willing to invest the money into licensing for products. The vast majority of startups will use free technologies like PHP and Java because they're freely distributed and you are allowed develop commercial products with them, whereas a lot of big companies now want experience with C#, which you'd only really have commercial experience with from the licensed version of Visual Studio, and tools like Accurev or Resharper. Even trying to learn these technologies on your own at home from the trial versions will be very limiting as its tough to create a believeable developlement environment. Basically you limit your options when using free technologies even though most of the development approaches are uniform across OO languages.

Supervision:
A lot of startups, because of the smaller workforces, don't have the same peer mentoring processes that a lot of bigger corporations have. They usually want the person to just be able to come in and fend for themselves and be able to get the job done with little input. Again, its very possible to perform in this capacity, especially if you're a self starter and enjoy developing/learning in your own free time, its just your growth as a developer would be stunted compared to if you were being mentored and code reviewed by senior developers. Its akin to trying to learn poker from just reading 2+2, compared to being coached and watching videos.
Ah ok, supervision part I understand what you're saying now. The thing about big companies moving towards C# or whatever, I understand what you're saying if that's someone's focus, but open source stuff and startups who use it still seems pretty huge from everything I've seen (I've been around the startup world somewhat). If someone's goal is to continue working at startups I think the person is better suited just working with whatever most similar companies are going to be using. God I am writing this terribly.. what I am saying is I have never heard that as a downside to startups, that they don't use C#, etc.. I can see that being a problem if your ultimate goal is to work in some sector where everyone uses C# for sure, but I don't know if it'd be a huge downside to everyone.

edit: also if you ARE someone who is interested in working at startups for a fair bit of time and just generally interested in that side of things and maybe eventually starting your own thing, being at a startup is going to give you a lot more valuable experience and knowledge than you potentially give up in not learning certain technologies or whatever.... just saying I don't think that's a big deal for a ton of people, could be wrong.
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08-27-2010 , 11:48 AM
jungle wins first almost 200k pot, owning durrr so much
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08-27-2010 , 11:55 AM
I agree, maybe I shouldn't have used languages as an example, basically what i was trying to say is that you limit your exposure to crucial and widely used commercial technologies. I think its just tough to transition from startup->big company, but not at all the other way around. Also, while i do agree that you learn more about how an industry work while working at a startup, i think its better to learn technical skills from the outset, as most people in entry level jobs aren't in a position to take advantage of that industry knowledge by starting their own company.
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08-27-2010 , 12:10 PM
anyone else catch that A2 hand jungle showed? sick stuff
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08-27-2010 , 12:11 PM
6 tables is hard to rail, but gg durrr
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08-27-2010 , 12:55 PM
plenty more sessions left tho
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08-27-2010 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Computerized
anyone else catch that A2 hand jungle showed? sick stuff
Yup. Pretty sick if durr 3bet/folded a Q3/Q2 on the turn. I don't know how he could do it though, he tanked a lot.
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