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how many hands is a good enough sample to know if u are beating a level?

i am 10.8/100 at 1/2 over 12,700 hands
and 24.54/100 at 2/4 over 3160 hands

just wondering how many more hands i would need to play at each level to get a good idea of what my BB/100 is?

any advice from reg would be helpful, ty.

I've read that something like 2.5-3 million will give you an idea within +-1ptbb

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01-24-2009 , 11:54 AM

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Hero (Button) ($229.90)
SB ($2)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10

, 9

Hero raises to $2, 1 fold

Results:
Outcome: Hero won $2

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01-24-2009 , 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gugel

Hero (Button) ($229.90)
SB ($2)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10

, 9

Hero raises to $2, 1 fold

Results:
Outcome: Hero won $2

Just won 4 buyins off this guy in 193 hands. Sweet.

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01-24-2009 , 01:11 PM

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TGSM89

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any1 here FT SnG midstakes player?

What are your thoughts on these guys..

gifted08

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dingdongallday

I gave dingdong about 10 games, he seems 2 be a decent agressive player and is more than willing to put in lots of reraises preflop to constant raises from the button..

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01-24-2009 , 05:35 PM

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Anyone have a 6 PTBB/100 over 50k hands+?

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01-24-2009 , 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NicholasJ

Anyone have a 6 PTBB/100 over 50k hands+?

Btw, anyone interested in some sort of petition/group email/whatever to FTP support to try and make them cap the number of openable tables to 2/player, and you can open more as they get filled ?

I don't think it would work, but we could try, it's really getting ridiculous, and i don't want to waste my time tableblocking morons opening 25tables

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01-24-2009 , 07:09 PM

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RIVERED4MYBANKROLL

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Yeah, 2 empty tables per player per limit.

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01-24-2009 , 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RIVERED4MYBANKROLL

Yeah, 2 empty tables per player per limit.

this won't work b/c the regs that will play anyone should be able to open the most tables

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01-25-2009 , 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NicholasJ

Anyone have a 6 PTBB/100 over 50k hands+?

This is pretty easy to do, but just for discussion's sake, what stakes?

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01-25-2009 , 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterLJ

This is pretty easy to do, but just for discussion's sake, what stakes?

Damn, teach me.

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01-25-2009 , 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scansion

Damn, teach me.

Move down to 100NL -- I'm at ~14BB/100 (28.5bb/100)

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01-25-2009 , 12:17 AM

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Donkologist

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If the holdem manager BB stats is correct, I'm at 16 bb over 50k hands at nl50

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01-25-2009 , 12:18 AM

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Damn, teach me.

Just gotta learn to chicken ship.

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01-25-2009 , 12:18 AM

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anyone know what happened to e-b-o-k? I was railing when he busted his roll I think against tuff_fish with AT vs. AJ lol

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01-25-2009 , 12:19 AM

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Jennifer Garner

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He self-excluded himself permanently from 2p2.

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01-25-2009 , 12:19 AM

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just fwiw, 6+ at anything over 5/10 is pretty damn good. 6+ at MSNL or lower is pretty easy to do.

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01-25-2009 , 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jennifer Garner

He self-excluded himself permanently from 2p2.

is he still playing? that was pretty epic

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01-25-2009 , 12:58 AM

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what you think about 6ptbb/100 at 1/2 NL MasterLJ?

put it this way, you think a 6ptbb/100 winner (over 100k hands) at 1/2 could beat 5/10+ for 2.5-3.5ptbb/100?

What about 2/4? It seems like this is a very big skill jump from 1/2 ---> 2/4

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01-25-2009 , 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TGSM89

i play midstakes HUSNGs on FTP and never seen any of them. By midstakes i mean $50-$100.... Maybe ure including $30's but yeah i never played any of them..

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01-25-2009 , 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hobokes

The relationship is not transitive at all with winrates and stakes. It's even possible that someone who can beat 5/10 for 6ptbb can't beat 1/2. They play very different.

6ptbb at 1/2 is extremely doable. I think I ran at 12.8 over 80k... obviously that's probably running fairly hot, but it's not a stretch to think I ran at overall EV given that I was game selecting. I know that AI equity-wise I did run only a few BIs hot (like 4)... but as most of you know AI equity EV is only a small part of the variance story.

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01-25-2009 , 01:36 AM

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12.8 over 80k is quite lightning hot, LJ

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01-25-2009 , 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NicholasJ

Anyone have a 6 PTBB/100 over 50k hands+?

I'm sure a bunch of the posters here are over that. I m running at around 8.7ptBB/100 over the last 105k hands, and at 11.5ptBB/100 over the last 45k hands at 2-4/3-6.

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01-25-2009 , 01:43 AM

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12.8 over 80k is quite lightning hot, LJ

Given game selection and how bad the games were back then, I kinda don't think it's stupid hot for 1/2. Certainly no one would say it was a bad run of cards. FFS kaintd77 was at like 18 PTBB over 190k hands at midstakes during the same time period.

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01-25-2009 , 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RCSkier86

I'm sure a bunch of the posters here are over that. I m running at around 8.7ptBB/100 over the last 105k hands, and at 11.5ptBB/100 over the last 45k hands at 2-4/3-6.

whats your ftp handle, RCskier? and did u go to HS in philadelphia?