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Originally Posted by Pasterbator
so i guess this is where you make some elitist comment that makes no sense given the context and you stop "debating" about this situation.
Are you also in the camp that says 5bet/calling 45 in this situation is better than 5bet/calling AK?
bc thats still LOL.
I read that a couple times and don't understand what you're saying; sorry if I came off as elitist, I just didn't think it would be too hard to figure out. Maybe it's just my way of thinking, I understand some things like this very well yet have trouble with other concepts that others find easy to learn.
If a guy's either bluffing or has a big hand, you can't just call or fold your entire range if none of what he bets valueowns himself. I'm pretty sure Sklansky explained this stuff much better than I, in theory of poker. (I have not read the book in years though, not positive)
5bet calling 45 is really bad and you are exactly right that you need to shove it, it's a huge mistake people make. Raise/calling or bet/calling hands with some sort of equity can generally be avoided by shoving yourself, while balancing with sets and other big hands.
Of course there are spots where it's OK to do so, as a matter of fact yesterday a friend of mine played a hand against a decent played 50/100 and bet/called the turn in a 3bet pot with A9hh on like T766hh after flatting the flop. I questioned him about it, and he said that in general it's not great but in this spot he thought he'd get check/shoved on a lot by weaker draws, making the play fine. (on an even further tangent, his opponent wouldn't bet the turn with a draw himself, because bet/calling hearts is a poor play for villain as well, thus making my friend's reasoning sound)