GG jurgent.

GG Ben Ward

He's pretty good imo

Full Tilt Poker Game #9539609050: Table Omar (heads up) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:45:00 ET - 2008/12/17
Seat 1: Der_Bewer ($118.65)
Seat 2: OtisRush ($202.35)
Der_Bewer posts the small blind of $0.50
OtisRush posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Der_Bewer [6s Qh]
Der_Bewer raises to $3
OtisRush calls $2
*** FLOP *** [3h Qs Qd]
OtisRush checks
Der_Bewer bets $4
OtisRush raises to $11
Der_Bewer raises to $29
OtisRush raises to $49
Der_Bewer calls $20
*** TURN *** [3h Qs Qd] [Jd]
OtisRush bets $150.35, and is all in
Der_Bewer calls $66.65, and is all in
OtisRush shows [4d Td]
Der_Bewer shows [6s Qh]
Uncalled bet of $83.70 returned to OtisRush
*** RIVER *** [3h Qs Qd Jd] [Ah]
OtisRush shows a pair of Queens
Der_Bewer shows three of a kind, Queens
Der_Bewer wins the pot ($236.80) with three of a kind, Queens
OtisRush adds $16.30
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $237.30 | Rake $0.50
Board: [3h Qs Qd Jd Ah]
Seat 1: Der_Bewer (small blind) showed [6s Qh] and won ($236.80) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: OtisRush (big blind) showed [4d Td] and lost with a pair of Queens

that's just a cooler
imo

who folds flush draws anyway

Believe it or not, this was an enormously frustrating match.

As far as the staking goes, I'm willing to allow regular posters that contribute to this forum to post in this thread and the monthly LC if they are looking for a stake.

As far as staking other people, I'm leaning against it, this is bc I really want the regular posters in this forum to be able to fall on hard times and work their way back into the mix and that is obviously not the case if they are looking for people to stake.

This isn't a forum wide rule or anything, so it's subject to change a little more so than most rules, but I think it is a fair rule. Any feedback is appreciated, but to conclude, the only people that can post anything about staking are forum regulars who are looking for stakes, everything else belongs in the staking subforum.

i had a filet mignon steak last night that was delicious. it was our 1.5 year anniversary holla for married peoples.

fwiw i think that policy is good chicagoroy

howd you get it cooked PM?

EDIT- i think its a good policy bc Im sure to be busto one day

hit and run by dapapst

Lol, seriously are you saying that. Like, 88 is a call on that river. Probably AQ.

well, basically the guy has a boat or air. there is obviously nothing else in his range, so if you're calling with AK, you should be calling with 88.

However, that doesn't mean its a supersnap call. I see no reason why you can't take a few seconds on the river to think about it. Typing that stuff into chat is kinda dumb tho.

Actually I would probably go 4275/call on the flop.

Edit: yeah he either has a boat or air but that's like saying he's either a martian or a human.

Let me paint the picture for you mr. scanscion.

You have AK on K32 against the biggest luckbox/coolerbox in the world. It is a single-minraised pot on the driest board in the world. The only draw is 45, and there are no flush draws. If we get it all in on the flop w/ AK, he is never stacking 45, but he is stacking 22/33, which our hand equity against is pretty much 0% for all intents against a giant luckbox.

We have 100 dollars invested preflop, and all of a sudden we have 2k+ invested on the flop. Turn is the worst bluff card for him but the best card for him if he has 22/33 so he would check w/ 22/33 and expect us to bet. We check turn (he knows we have a Kx type hand now) and he shoves river, not giving a **** that we have a Kx type hand.

And this is busto_soon. I would have folded KJ fwiw.

Chicago that's a fair and perfect policy imo and is well done

what the balls is the difference between KJ and AK besides nothing.

any though on Outdraw09, benomg2000, and shazmeister on FTP?

you would have FOLDED KJ? but you called with AK. lawl.

qflawl

You seem good and understand poker at a very high level. Coach me?

Frequencies and bottom of his value range.

Edit: Forgot this is 2+2, where everything is "standard" and game dynamic is tossed out the window because "LOL HE HAD 9 HIGH I'D CALL WITH QT HIGH CUZ QT = AK VS. HIS RANGE LOLZ"

Edit2: I would not be taking heat for this if results weren't posted. Results ftw too.

So you go 4275 on the flop and plan to get shoved on by 9 high? His shoving range would be 45 and set, and we fold out all of his bluffs. He 3-bets so often that we can discount a lot of strong kings in his range. Our equity against that range is not good, especially since it's a rainbow board too.

Scansion, you are one of the few posters here I honestly respect and would not HUHU because I know you understand the game, but I honestly do not see any merit in 4275/call on the flop as it takes out all of his bluff hands and we get it in so bad against his shoving range, especially after we discount kings from his range (weak kings fold, not many strong kings in his range due to his high 3-betting %).

Also, I'd fold KT actually and flip a coin on KJ.


Edit: I would MUCH rather 4275/call with 45 than AK.

Ok, I just talked this over w/ some reputable HSNL players, and the consensus was in a vacuum we SNAP fold the river.

After relaying game dynamic to them, it's a close fold/call either way even getting these odds, and I think KT is a fold and it isn't that close.

Benomg2000 sucks imo

i think its close, but you can't fold this hand.

btw i hate re raise to 4475/snap w/ AK. w/ 54 i agree its a good play, but w/ AK i hate it.