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05-15-2009 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cftw
why do people think stevesbets is so bad but that fullflush is so good? stevesbets isn't even that bad iirc and he's definitely not stupid; he just got owned by FWF and internet pokers back in the day and tilted like crazy. 2+2 just loves to comment on hearsay to sound like they are in the loop imo. Fwiw, i didn't think steve was great but i definitely didn't see him as an ATM. It's just so sick that if a 2+2'er makes 70k in 2 days at 10/20, he's "such a sicko" but if stevesbets does it "lol wut a luckbox".
fwiw, a bunch of hands did get posted in the ftp regs thread and the way in which he made a bunch of it was just from sick coolers he was always on the right side of.
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05-15-2009 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by StreamlineR
what site is it taking place on?
ftp this time
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05-15-2009 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LucidDream
fwiw, a bunch of hands did get posted in the ftp regs thread and the way in which he made a bunch of it was just from sick coolers he was always on the right side of.
hh's plz?
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05-15-2009 , 08:08 PM
ben86 posted them in the ftp regs thread in msnl.
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05-15-2009 , 08:10 PM
oh the coolers

Full Tilt Poker Game #12241026747: Table Colyer (heads up, deep) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:07:56 ET - 2009/05/15
Seat 1: stevesbets ($15,179)
Seat 2: Volker_Racho ($4,009.50)
stevesbets posts the small blind of $10
Volker_Racho posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stevesbets [Ah Ad]
stevesbets has 15 seconds left to act
stevesbets raises to $60
Volker_Racho raises to $300
stevesbets raises to $720
Volker_Racho raises to $4,009.50, and is all in
stevesbets calls $3,289.50
Volker_Racho shows [Tc Qc]
stevesbets shows [Ah Ad]
*** FLOP *** [Jc 7h Ts]
*** TURN *** [Jc 7h Ts] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 7h Ts 6d] [8d]
Volker_Racho shows a pair of Tens
stevesbets shows a pair of Aces
stevesbets wins the pot ($8,018.50) with a pair of Aces
Volker_Racho adds $4,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8,019 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jc 7h Ts 6d 8d]
Seat 1: stevesbets (small blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won ($8,018.50) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Volker_Racho (big blind) showed [Tc Qc] and lost with a pair of Tens
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05-15-2009 , 08:13 PM
I will stick with my read and say that Volker is playing well with a few catastrophic mistakes thrown in.
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05-15-2009 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterLJ
I will stick with my read and say that Volker is playing well with a few catastrophic mistakes thrown in.
that can't still add up to "well" though, can it?
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05-15-2009 , 08:15 PM
That adds up to the assraping he is getting
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05-15-2009 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterLJ
That adds up to the assraping he is getting
voler still up 9k according to steve, steve was stuck 35 at one point

edit: pretty sure he told me 35 was all to volker
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05-15-2009 , 08:17 PM
now only 4k
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05-15-2009 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hobokes
oh the coolers

Full Tilt Poker Game #12241026747: Table Colyer (heads up, deep) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:07:56 ET - 2009/05/15
Seat 1: stevesbets ($15,179)
Seat 2: Volker_Racho ($4,009.50)
stevesbets posts the small blind of $10
Volker_Racho posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stevesbets [Ah Ad]
stevesbets has 15 seconds left to act
stevesbets raises to $60
Volker_Racho raises to $300
stevesbets raises to $720
Volker_Racho raises to $4,009.50, and is all in
stevesbets calls $3,289.50
Volker_Racho shows [Tc Qc]
stevesbets shows [Ah Ad]
*** FLOP *** [Jc 7h Ts]
*** TURN *** [Jc 7h Ts] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 7h Ts 6d] [8d]
Volker_Racho shows a pair of Tens
stevesbets shows a pair of Aces
stevesbets wins the pot ($8,018.50) with a pair of Aces
Volker_Racho adds $4,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8,019 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jc 7h Ts 6d 8d]
Seat 1: stevesbets (small blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won ($8,018.50) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Volker_Racho (big blind) showed [Tc Qc] and lost with a pair of Tens

the hh's arent from him. havent seen any of their match, dont know who is up, and if steve is i have no idea how he got the money so....
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05-15-2009 , 08:19 PM
cftw was dead on with the "such a sicko" "o wat a luckbox" post
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05-15-2009 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterLJ
I will stick with my read and say that Volker is playing well with a few catastrophic mistakes thrown in.
98%. prob slightly less on both ends
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05-15-2009 , 08:32 PM
lol

Volker_Racho: you still the same player?
stevesbets: lol
stevesbets: obv
stevesbets: ur just not running like god
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05-15-2009 , 10:11 PM
Man i wish I could have a fanboy WTF.

Dude does not need a Proxy
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05-15-2009 , 10:29 PM
allin486 ran like absolute GOD against me -.-.

Stevebets is truly horrible, honestly i think allin might just be better, or at least not quite as exploitable. It almost shocks me that he scored so high on the SATs....

How do you actually lose to stevebets? his betting patterns indicate EXACTLY what he has

Last edited by jungleman; 05-15-2009 at 10:52 PM.
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05-15-2009 , 10:36 PM
allin is better and thats not saying anything
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05-15-2009 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jungleman
allin486 ran like absolute GOD against me -.-.

Stevebets is truly horrible, honestly i think allin might just be better, or at least not quite as exploitable. It almost shocks me that he scored so high on the SATs....
sorry jungle, that guy stunk, sick match
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05-15-2009 , 11:12 PM
realmonies pm'd me

i feel special
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05-15-2009 , 11:24 PM
yay! my rungoodaments continue! Played 1kh of 2/4 for +3.6k!

/blog
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05-15-2009 , 11:55 PM
nice
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05-16-2009 , 12:09 AM
You can't post brags without a graph win
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05-16-2009 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Shizzle12345
i think some of you are thinking about it wrong. CFTW u say some v good players have only made 50k lifetime. They are technically very good, but they suck at dealing with variance. I have played lots of midstakes regs across all sites lately, and handled super strict stoplosses myself. I started seeing how insanly important this is when i watched how i destroyed some regs who i thought were good. I was basicly 1 step ahead of em most of the time, and that was mostly cos they were stuck to me or someone else be4 playing me. I realized how sick important it it so to play your best, and not your 2nd best (even tho they might seem close to each other). It is like day and night. These players probably werent much worse or better then me. But because i avoided playing when i wasnt 100% focussed and in the zone, and they sometimes threw that completly out of the window, i think i had an edge on them.

Fullflush runs hot now, and thats why he plays so well vs everyone, but I wonder how much or little mistakes hes gonna make when he goes on a 700k downer or something.

Wether or not your better then all the 25/50+ regs or whatever has more to do with how you handle your stoplosses and how fast your out of the zone or not. That player that just owned you for 6 bi might be a marginal winner, and might be that tagfish you played yesterday you couldnt image is a winning player. Because hes about to have a 2nd or 3rd break even month.

fwiw im not claiming to have any knowlegde on full flush or something, just trying to make an example.

Im also not claiming to have alot of knowledge about not tilting and being on your Agame, because i have also been a prime example of fail in that area.
Good post. Also, quits after a 2 buyin downswing. Could be a reason he is doing so well. He doesn't let him play deteriorate. If he ever runs bad good chance he just quits with his small fortune.

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Originally Posted by cftw
why do people think stevesbets is so bad but that fullflush is so good? stevesbets isn't even that bad iirc and he's definitely not stupid; he just got owned by FWF and internet pokers back in the day and tilted like crazy. 2+2 just loves to comment on hearsay to sound like they are in the loop imo. Fwiw, i didn't think steve was great but i definitely didn't see him as an ATM. It's just so sick that if a 2+2'er makes 70k in 2 days at 10/20, he's "such a sicko" but if stevesbets does it "lol wut a luckbox".
But stevebets is terrible. And durrr for example has actually said FF is decent..
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05-16-2009 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Isura
Good post. Also, quits after a 2 buyin downswing. Could be a reason he is doing so well. He doesn't let him play deteriorate. If he ever runs bad good chance he just quits with his small fortune.



But stevebets is terrible. And durrr for example has actually said FF is decent..

Again, I agreed with Shizzle, but fullflush does get upset pretty easily and seems to be on a pretty downer.

As for what durrr said...put yourself in durrr's shoes, do you say anything different? I'm not saying durrr is lying, but I'm saying it's possible, and the fact that durrr is practically begging FF to take the challenge speaks louder than him saying, "oh yah he's decent."

and read my posts again--i said him being bad is my opinion based on what i say when i played him. i've talked to others who agreed with me but will not say it in public, and that's perfectly fine. as a poker pro, you are expected to conduct yourself in a respectful manner towards other poker players.

Stevesbets just seems to be the exception because EVERYBODY from HSNL regs to microstake grinders to busto donks talk about how "he's so terrible etc. etc." From what I've seen, he was not that bad, but again that's personal experience and not 2+2 talking.
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05-16-2009 , 04:50 AM
Good point. I'm sure durrr has a solid edge on him (he's almost certainly a top 5 hu NLHE player right?). But I wouldn't bet against FF being a solid winner at ~25/50.
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