+350

If a load of guys wanna get together and keep going on about the same shiz then I'm sure you can make your own nice little thread for it.

This, among other things is one reason I'm for the bill passing... I realize a lot of it is hearsay, but if you think about what has happened slowly since the UIGEA was passed, it makes sense.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5980

We likely won't have a shot for another 4+ years to pass any sort of online poker bill. Everyone complaining about the 15 month blackout period is thinking a bit short sighted imo. All it takes is a few DoJ indictments and one of these big sites running on the bank, and we're all royally ****ed.

Fwiw I'm working on the undertitle. Only the Reds can give titles (i think) so i'm just waiting on approval.

- Yes, the 15 month blackout will suck. Still, it might be possible to play on sites that opt to stay in the U.S. market like Bodog, Cake, etc. It won't be illegal for the players, only for the sites to offer poker to U.S. residents.
- Why do you say we won't know what poker will look like? It will look pretty awesome imo. Joe Sixpack can swipe his debit card and play on FTP or Stars in 15 months. Media networks will be more accepting of poker advertising if it is 100% legal. It may not be the Moneymaker effect, but it will most certainly be a better situation with more fish than there are now.
- States opting out will happen under ANY legalization of online poker. If you think the federal government will ever mandate states to opt in, you're delusional. Just look at state lotteries and other forms of gambling for proof. If you live in the middle of Kentucky, that's your loss.
- You're seriously worried if Harrah's will have HU tables? There will be plenty of competition with legalization and licensing, I think it's reasonable to assume most places will offer HU. If there were 2-3 fish per 6-max table instead of 1 or none, would it really matter that much anyways?
- It's not like fish actively monitor the legal ramifications surrounding poker now. Those that play will continue to try to. New fish will see an ad on ESPN, create an account, swipe their debit card or PayPal and start playing. That can't happen right now.

I really hope this passes.

If you think there are uncertainties with this bill, think about the uncertainties of the status quo. More payment processor seizures or possible indictments of major sites like Stars & FTP? Or with a Republican controlled congress, maybe they'll sneak in more UIGEA-like bills to make even harder to play online poker in the U.S., if not entirely illegal for players instead of sites.

wow isildur1 is crushing so hard plo 5k 6max on stars. He has more than 10 bi almost on every table

Something needs to happen, it's tilting as hell to keep on seeing the same arguments.

Here's another fun fact if you don't think there would be a resurgence of action if the bill passes:

I'm pretty sure the U.S. online poker market is nowhere even close to $3 billion right now, but I admit that's just a guess.

But apparently there are only gonna be 15 optin states to begin with so when the blackout ends that not exactly a ton of people still.

If I was american I think this bill is very good long term, although obv the blackout period sucks, but with a little bit of work and some smarts, there are workarounds and viable alternatives.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS....online.poker/

CNN article saying that: Who knows though.

Yeah, as for where the bill stands, there's tons of things floating around. First, they quoted Reid saying it was dead, then he said that was in response to another question.

I think it's safe to say whatever is said in public doesn't translate to what is happening behind closed doors. We'll know soon enough.

Also, **** Kyl, that guy has been a thorn in our side too long

lmao apparently isildur1 has 400k+ spread on 6 tables of 25/50 plo on stars
what a f legend that man is

isildur is a hero.


that is all.

lol, you guys are idiots

In before "BUT HE GOT HIS STARS ACCOUNT BANNNNNNED" as if that's remotely comparable to going to prison, which could conceivably happen to Gary if he had to actually take responsibility for his actions like normal people usually do when they commit crimes

that's ****ing stupid. "yeah, let's group all the hate towards gary in places where he'll never have to read it." moron

ahahaha yep

+1 confirmed moron

anyone else just see sauce call reraise pre, 3 barrels including all in river KQ236 board and lose a 65k pot to JT?
100/200 vs urnot btw.

wait what, JT high?


also, down 2bi vs a fish opening 76%, folding 0% to 3bets and playing 85% oop fater being 3.5bi up to him

fml

god he sucks so much.

I just noticed Isildur has 2 dedicated 50/100 HU NL tables and 26071985 is sitting at one waiting for action. Nothing would make me happier then to see the dbag get busted by Isildur.

if anyone wants to trade some merge network money for stars or ftp il be willing to pay a vig

seeing sauce play always makes me want to go to a cave for 6 months and solve poker

lollll

Whenever I see his name I wonder if he has the same birthday as me

lol is people calling sauce bad a level or what? the guy is obv thinking on a much higher level and ***** on people

Or urnotindanger2 is one level higher and shoved JT for value.