Keep copious notes because the same spots come up over and over again and any leaks or ill adjustment is going to be magnified. I wouldn't suggest multitabling these.

how big a loss/winrate is attainable when you're only playing 30bb deep and therefore the biggest mistake a fish can make is a 30bb one

i just got a new pc, everytime i try and open full tilt it opens as a small box with no text and when i click the blue button in the middle the program closes. anyone know how to fix this?

http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...r-search/ok2aa

Only cap player I know, one of the best (if not the best) Estonian cap players. I'm pretty impressed he got average 2BB/100 winrate on midstakes when many players struggle to get that winrate even on standard 100BB tables.

got the same, i reinstalled it few times and it worked

its certainly a lot lower than 100bb winrates but by no means tiny, fish will make consistent preflop mistakes that will add up very quickly because they'll never have the chance to make 100bb to compensate for it. i recently checked my database and at 40bb and lower my winrate is like 1/2-2/3 of my overall winrate, and at 30bb and lower its about 1/3-1/2 of my overall winrate. i'm sure variance has to do with it but its still a pretty profitable spot.

cap is cool altho 5ptbb/100 at midstakes is most certainly unsustainable. however stack depth is always the same so paying a ton of attention to villain's std lines is more important than fullstacked. Also preflop game is really important, if villain calls 4bets w stuff like KTo readless, you'll be printing money and he won't be able to make up 4 it postflop; also if you're 3xing, prepare for a super high variance game vs any decent player. 5-10 bi swings are fairly std vs regs, but if you end up dropping 5-10 bi regularly playing fish you should think twice about your game ime.

why would you ever 3x cap ?_?

yeah with no experience or instructions i instinctively minraised and never 3xed

when i was playing cap id def dump like 5 cap buys to fish all the f time. i stopped playing cap and feel much better. was so hard to stop cause theres a bunch more action at cap but god that game tilted me.

after donkaments and cash yesterday i was -36.00, i decided to play another session and lost 5k i hate this job.

Theoretical question:

Heads-up cashgame, 6% rake and NO CAP (if you get it in with $1000 effective stacks, rake is $120) and even when I fold SB preflop rake is taken. Is it beatable even when the fish are like -50bb/100 losers or worse? And is it possible to somehow calculate how much worse this game is regards to rake than a regular FullTilt heads-up game?

idk but i kinda doubt it. whats avg pot? 100$? so thats .6bb/1 so 60bb/100 in rake. might be doing something wrong but given those #'s seems right.

There is also bias in samples, opponents are most likely worse by avarage on hands where effective stacks are 20-40bb, than if effective stacks are 100+ bb.

Assuming you just filtered all your hands and you didn't just compare CAP games to normal games. On CAP tables this is probably not true (unless there is less regs).

It's kinda amazing to realize how many fundamental mistakes many mid/highstakes player must have, as some guys are really crushing in the cap games. For example clockwyze and kmoneyk10 have 6bb/100 winrate at highstakes cap NL... I understand that rake bb/100 is very low at those stakes, but given that players at those stakes are supposed to be super good it seems almost unreal that it is possible to win so much in those games.

Of course every player makes mistakes, but given that those players are (probably!) human too, it's just amazing.

yea, i mean he was asking about winrates v fish and most of my experience at cap tables is against regs so i figured that would give a more accurate sample.

also about clockwyze et al, its not really that surprising that someone who's legitimately good at cap nl and better at short stack math than the average cash game reg will crush those games...i'm sure they're frequently tables composed of 1 fish, 1-2 regs who are legitimate cap regulars, and 2-3 high stakes regs who usually play 100bb+

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Get a fish hu on shallow table he goes up 3 buyins. Get him back below 100then this:

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: $87.25
Hero (BTN/SB): $282.45

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with A T
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $6, Hero raises to $25, BB raises to $87.25 all in, Hero calls $62.25

Flop: ($174.50) 6 K 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($174.50) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($174.50) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $174.50
BB shows A 2 (a flush, Ace high)
Hero shows A T (a pair of Kings)
BB wins $174.00
(Rake: $0.50)

whatever grind him below 100 again then this:

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN/SB: $97.10
Hero (BB): $267.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K J
BTN/SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, BTN/SB calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 9 2 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: ($24.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN/SB calls $20

River: ($64.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $235.60 all in, BTN/SB calls $65.10 all in

Final Pot: $194.20
BTN/SB shows 7 Q (a flush, King high)
Hero shows K J (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
BTN/SB wins $193.70
(Rake: $0.50)

back to square one ok one more time...

WTF?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN/SB: $97.10
Hero (BB): $257.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8 8
BTN/SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $257.90 all in, BTN/SB calls $93.10 all in

Flop: ($194.20) Q A 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($194.20) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($194.20) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $194.20
BTN/SB shows 3 K (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows 8 8 (a pair of Eights)
BTN/SB wins $193.70
(Rake: $0.50)

then he doubles up jj v aa very nextd then this:

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN/SB: $300.90
Hero (BB): $69.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J J
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, BTN/SB calls $8

Flop: ($22.00) 4 6 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $13, BTN/SB raises to $26, Hero raises to $58.10 all in, BTN/SB calls $32.10

Turn: ($138.20) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($138.20) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $138.20
BTN/SB shows 7 A (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero shows J J (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
BTN/SB wins $137.70
(Rake: $0.50)


And leaves shortly after

meanwhile ot hit n run 5 times at the other table

***** hate hu.

I think it's kinda sad that no euro sites have cap tables, it would be cool to play those games every now and then. Party has 20-40bb tables but they aren't capped so it's not the same really.


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ummm.. thanks...?


Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BB): $1544.75
BTN/SB: $2982.80

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BB with K Q
BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $48, BTN/SB calls $36

Flop: ($96.00) 9 4 T (2 players)
Hero bets $78, BTN/SB calls $78

Turn: ($252.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $198, BTN/SB calls $198

River: ($648.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $582, BTN/SB raises to $2658.80 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $638.75 all in

tee hee

sick slowroll?

all that money was mine, i was tilted enough to think he could have it again

i mean the question to myself is how the **** am i down

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BB): $1514.00
BTN/SB: $2998.05

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BB with Q K
BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $48, BTN/SB calls $36

Flop: ($96.00) 8 Q 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $72, BTN/SB calls $72

Turn: ($240.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $144, BTN/SB calls $144

River: ($528.00) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $276, Hero raises to $768, BTN/SB calls $492

hey, could you guys give some quick input on THIS? I'd really appreciate it.