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How Would You Play JJ Here in 3BP? How Would You Play JJ Here in 3BP?

04-16-2024 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AskZandar
I think people find it generally unattractive to bluff smaller sizes because they get called so much more often.
Yeah agreed, the turn stab of B30 is almost like a please call me bet.

It makes sense when you think about it that way but I think the majority of people will assume bigger turn stab = stronger range.
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04-16-2024 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
If the turn is a 4c and we check and villain stabs we jam turn. If you are asking what is the difference between a C-B-B line when a FCT and a FD bricks out the difference will be 2%-3% at least. I don't have exact data for missed FD but FCT is 2% under average and usually missed FD's are over average in most spots.

Actually I found something that is pretty unintuitive in going through this data.

a C30-B30-B line is stronger than both a C30-B50-B line and C30-B70-B line (yeah I know it is C50-B-B but I don't have filtered data for that line).

That is pretty crazy and show's a reverse sizing tell.
Ya, it's a bad hypothetical I guess, since we wouldn't get to that point on the river if we played it correct.

As far as the data, seems intuitive to me. Those please call me turn sizings have always been big tells.
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04-16-2024 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
Ya, it's a bad hypothetical I guess, since we wouldn't get to that point on the river if we played it correct.

As far as the data, seems intuitive to me. Those please call me turn sizings have always been big tells.
Yeah I guess intuition is a bit subjective since everyone thinks about poker differently even if they arrive at the same conclusion. I was surprised with the data myself.

It reminds me of triple barrels in BvB (speaking of non-intuitive to me). The Flush complete river from a Front door flush draw compared to a Backdoor flush show's significant discrepancies that can't be reconciled by low sample size arguments. The Backdoor flush complete is a much stronger river range when triple barreled over a front door flush complete

Last edited by DooDooPoker; 04-16-2024 at 07:50 PM.
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