How does Blitz/Zoom change BvB dynamics?
Join Date: Oct 2023
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Wonder if anyone has some insights on how fast fold formats change blind vs blind play. Both players have a stronger range than they normally would, so how does this impact our c-bet frequencies as SB/flop defend range as BB? Can BB attack low card boards more aggressively as SB will fast fold many of their lower suited connectors? How does it change flush advantage?
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 938
It doesn’t really- weaker players will get run over and stronger players will get run over less. BvB changes drastically dependent on who you’re up against regardless of pool or fast fold or not.
Join Date: Jul 2024
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I don't think ranges should be very different in fast vs std but I think at the lowest stakes yes people are a bit tighter from SB.
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I legit lol'd when I saw your name the other night, that's one of my favorite Silvio moments
Blitz definitely results in a bit of a tighter pool in general vs reg tables, but that's more a consequence of the numerous breakeven nits trying to pump out volume for rewards rather than it being indicative of how you "should" be playing if you want to maximize your EV, particularly against such nits themselves - which would usually result in you playing tighter in some spots and much more loosely in others
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Everyone is slightly less wrong
Join Date: May 2016
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More fast folds from recs (especially from the SB) compared to regular tables I guess.
Join Date: Dec 2013
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As recs under 3bet anyways you open wider than GTO regardless.
Join Date: Sep 2020
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Why would ranges be much stronger? That shouldn't necessarily be the case. However if you play on sites (like GG) that allow people to autofold BB, then it can be useful to understand which players do that and open wider/ smaller or even limp BB with some weaker hands as they will often auto-fold a lot of hands that should be defends vs a smaller size. If that's the case then when they call we probably have to be generally more careful, as we have a wider range vs a not so wide one.
Otherwise, as said before, it's not the format that influence how ranges look but player tendencies and rake structure.
Join Date: Oct 2013
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this is a ludicrously bad question.
if your opponents are overfolding preflop you should start by figuring out how to take advantage from that preflop
This is like asking: "We all play like clowns, what theoretical concepts apply more in clown world than normal world?"
Instead of: "How do I beat clowns and not be a clown myself?"
Last edited by aner0; 11-16-2024 at 04:29 PM.
