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12-15-2012 , 10:36 AM

Hainesy_2KT

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,546

Hi guys,

i have very little info on the villain, only 30 or so hands. could be fish, reg, or anything in between. stats were like 30/20 or something.

i folded because this board is so monumentally dry he's doing this only with an overpair or a set, right? in which case i'm beating only 99 and losing to everything else, and i have zero fold equity if i decided to try to push him off the pot. historically at 10nl in spots like this i would have just said screw it and carried on with my overpair, but i think that was probably a leak.

what do ppl think?

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IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14997281

BB: $10.35 (103.5 bb)
UTG: $6.02 (60.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $18.29 (182.9 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.22 (52.2 bb)
SB: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T

UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, CO folds, BTN calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.40) 8

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, BTN folds, SB raises to $2.05, Hero folds

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12-15-2012 , 11:11 AM

cbboy

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in the 30 hands, has he raised any cbets? could he do this with something like 65? a8?

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12-15-2012 , 11:44 AM

Hainesy_2KT

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,546

he had one opportunity to raise a cb which he didn't take, according to hem. i honestly couldn't speculate as to whether he'd make this play with the hands you mentioned, i would just guess most players i come up against at 10nl on this site wouldn't.

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12-15-2012 , 11:44 AM

Rebuild

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I call once here IP reevaluate turn. He can have hands like 65,77 or A8 or just random cr w air.

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12-15-2012 , 11:50 AM

Hainesy_2KT

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Originally Posted by Rebuild

I call once here IP reevaluate turn. He can have hands like 65,77 or A8 or just random cr w air.

yeah i thought about this at the time for a little while, there are a lot of unfriendly turn cards for my tens though aren't there?

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12-15-2012 , 12:50 PM

ProfesorKaos

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yeah too many bad turns. we dont know what his frequencies/tendecies are like and its one of those hands where you are hoping things go your way so you can GTSD and its really easy to make mistakes in situations like that.

i dont think we are being exploited in a vacuum folding here either so I wouldn't call flop but just ditch it.

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12-15-2012 , 01:10 PM

mildodanny

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 13

think ur giving him alot of credit , just a smooth call in the sm cant see him having a bigger pair , i would call and let him bet the worst hand (most of the time)

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12-15-2012 , 02:10 PM

nota_bene

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Fold no info.

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12-15-2012 , 02:41 PM

mrpeach

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Originally Posted by Rebuild

I call once here IP reevaluate turn. He can have hands like 65,77 or A8 or just random cr w air.

which means hoping for him to shut down?

fold without any info

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12-15-2012 , 02:48 PM

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mildodanny

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Originally Posted by mrpeach

which means hoping for him to shut down?

fold without any info

if your going to fold that hand then what are u going to call with ? think u can beat more hands than hands that can beat you ,

i would rule out a overpair, so there are 3sets that beat you and hands you can beat are any top pair , an open ended or even 2nd pair ,

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12-15-2012 , 02:54 PM

#11

mrpeach

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Originally Posted by mildodanny

problem is we dont even know if hes a fish or reg. If hes a reg this flop hits his
OOP ccalling range so hard, because the regfish generally flat nothing but 22-TT OOP.

He hits his set-> raise
He doesnt hit> call as long the board runs out low

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12-15-2012 , 02:59 PM

#12

Rebuild

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Come on even bad regs can have a8,89 here and 66,77,99? As well as draws and most of it will shut down OTT, I m pretty sure this is a call.

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12-15-2012 , 03:05 PM

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mildodanny

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Originally Posted by mrpeach

i cant agree on the only hands hes going to raise is a set , even with a "8 "why wouldnt he raise then fold , in other words "see where hes at"
(am new here whats a regfish ?)_

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12-15-2012 , 03:44 PM

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Hainesy_2KT

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regfish = bad reg.

so many turn cards are bad for my tens though, soooo many. we really are hoping for a shut down, and hoping for any event is not a sound strategy for winning money.

the whole situation just smacked of a leak for me if i carried on. he bets turn fat, i fold etc.

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12-15-2012 , 03:47 PM

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RotInHell

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I think it's fine, you don't really know this opponent so I think it will only lead to high variance for you to continue here.. Just wait and see whom you're playing against and you will be able to determine the best way to go further down the road. I guess it's nitty but whatever :P

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12-15-2012 , 03:59 PM

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mildodanny

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Originally Posted by Hainesy_2KT

its going to be a tricky hand i would make 3 calls since i have the best hand most of the time (3sets ,twopair v anytop pair and a semi bluff) even if a overcard comes still call , if anyone intends to folding tens there then why not limp and wait until u have more info on everyone before you start raising

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12-15-2012 , 04:05 PM

#17

dalonelybaptist

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I think folding is fine.

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12-15-2012 , 04:08 PM

#18

mrpeach

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Originally Posted by mildodanny

if anyone intends to folding tens there then why not limp and wait until u have more info on everyone before you start raising

because regs x/r these boards 20% at most and just call the other 80%

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