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02-23-2024 , 01:13 PM

tdammon

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Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 707

V is 24 / 12 / 0 over 50 hands.

My thinking is that V would bet sets on the flop. They can have 99 and maybe a couple over pairs that call but I think I am getting 88, 66, and a bunch of 9x to fold.

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 160 BB
MP: 88.5 BB
CO: 101 BB
BTN: 183.5 BB
SB: 82.5 BB
BB: 101 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 4

BB bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB, CO calls 6 BB

Turn: (26 BB, 3 players) 9

BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 13 BB, fold, Hero raises to 32 BB

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02-23-2024 , 01:40 PM

TripleBerryJam

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Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 474

Don't think CO has any 9x at all, and 88/66 probably checks turn although 2nl players are probably paranoid about protection.

On flop/turn generally you only raise hands that could viably call. Your hand should just fold. XR bluff FDs, OESD, weaker board pairs

Not even sure you should have a XR range, would you check 77/99 ever?

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02-23-2024 , 01:41 PM

TheBritishLion

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Just fold. Don't think there's any need to try take this spot. BB is still behind as well. Unlikely he's betting turn here with 66 or 88 in to 2 players, more than likely he will take a free river with them and he will just flat all his sets on the flop.

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02-23-2024 , 02:47 PM

tdammon

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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam

Good point, I never take this line with a strong hand.

It's hard to put CO on a range because V shouldn't call much preflop with this rake structure.

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02-23-2024 , 02:52 PM

TripleBerryJam

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Originally Posted by tdammon

Good point, I never take this line with a strong hand.

It's hard to put CO on a range because V shouldn't call much preflop with this rake structure.

Yeah CO range is going to be VERY different depending on their VPIP and somewhat 3b

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02-23-2024 , 04:15 PM

tdammon

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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam

Yeah CO range is going to be VERY different depending on their VPIP and somewhat 3b

I've been trying to work on my overall aggression especially in spots where I think V has a capped range. Maybe multiway spots are not the right place for added aggression though.

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02-23-2024 , 05:22 PM

DeeKayBee

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Punt, I would advise trying to avoid bluffing at 2nl as much as possible.

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02-23-2024 , 05:35 PM

tdammon

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Originally Posted by DeeKayBee

Punt, I would advise trying to avoid bluffing at 2nl as much as possible.

I do play a pretty value heavy strategy, but I want to start being more aggressive. x/r multiway is probably not the spot though.

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02-23-2024 , 07:59 PM

Dante Alighieri

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Originally Posted by tdammon

My thinking is that V would bet sets on the flop. They can have 99 and maybe a couple over pairs that call but I think I am getting 88, 66, and a bunch of 9x to fold.

I doubt 9x folds here. You're going to have to jam river, and even then I'm not too sure. Also, this could easily be a slow-played 77 or 44. I would fold turn.

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02-24-2024 , 08:07 AM

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DeeKayBee

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Originally Posted by tdammon

I do play a pretty value heavy strategy, but I want to start being more aggressive. x/r multiway is probably not the spot though.

Start doing it at 5nl, where people start to think more and you can practice playing vs better players. 2nl is it own special ecosytem.(As some who have played mostly 2nl,5nl and 10nl)

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02-24-2024 , 06:21 PM

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Brussels Sprout

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Originally Posted by tdammon

Good point, I never take this line with a strong hand.

It's hard to put CO on a range because V shouldn't call much preflop with this rake structure.

I think it's unwise to assume that the average 2nl villain is aware of how the rake structure should affect their ranges.

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