If I expanded my nitty CO range to 24.6% from 18.3%



Does this look like a good adjustment to:
Add A4s, A3s, A2s as 4Bets
Move KJs to a call (from 4Bet)
Add KTs as a 4Bet
Add 98s, 87s, 76s as calls

This maintains a 45% continue vs 3Bet
with a 61/39 call 3Bet vs 4Bet ratio


On paper it seems like QJs would be a better flat, but I think I'd get too sticky with top pair and end up coughing my winnings quickly. Also is there an argument to me made to play 86s instead of 98s? It's still ingrained in my head from reading super system a decade ago that 98 flops the idiot end of a straight (vs AK) and I will be more likely to be dominated vs A9s/K9s, than A8s/K8s

Would this range get me destroyed vs good players because it lacks 76s, 65s, 54s, and more suited 1 and 2 gappers? And that leaves me open to easier exploitation?

Or does it have to do with not 4betting any SC's, other hands, or just a combination of both?

I'm just a lowly micro stakes player, but I'm guessing I'd need to randomize more 3Bets/calls with like an 80/20 randomizer vs great players one day.

Even at micros I've going to 4Bet a lot more JJ and TT's vs aggressive players, and not follow this chart religiously. Just trying to form some ranges as default and be pointed out to the most obvious of holes.

when being OOP you want to do more folding with smaller pockets and SC, especially if villain 3 bets 10bb or more. i open 2.5bb in the CO and when Villain 3 bets to 9bb or more i do mix folds/calls with these hands. When being IP vs a SB or BB resteal you can probably call most pockets and much more SC or suited gappers

how do you factor in rake in your calculations?
do you just subtract the percentage of the pot which will be rake?

you can multiply the total pot if you were to call (i.e. ~20bb) by 0.95 to substract the 5% rake (or w/e it is where you play)

p1 rfi 3x
p2 3b 10x

instead of calling 7x to win 20x, you can win only 19 after rake

I think the extra rake you get to pay post as the pot gets bigger gets calculated later

maybe there's a better way to do it, idk

Against aggro 3 betters it would be ok, but most are not. You need to start out the session as if you are facing 3-bet ranges as tight as JJ+ AK. This means that you can open very wide from CO and exploitably fold almost your entire range as a default. It is going to vary from session to session. You can bluff with some small suited Aces as long as you clearly understand that you are going to be dominated by a lot of big aces. Personally I would use some medium pairs and suited connectors, yes. These are hands that have much better implied odds as villain will never fold an overpair. Honestly though, really loom at stack sizes, bet sizes and timing tells if you are getting 3-bet a ton.

You can also open 2.5x on the CO and really expand your range. They will start 3-betting relentlessly and then you can have some fun, or just switch back to 3x.

with some i am slightly losing with some i am slightly winning.
problem is that these kind of hands are so marginal you probably need an overall sample of 1 Mio+ to have a decent sample because i think at average you will get only 1-2 spots to open JTo in the CO during a 1K session.

it is definetly marginal.

ok, that's kind of the way I thought about it. I think I'll take another look at my defending ranges with rake in mind for postflop situations

Hello. Interesting thread, I have a question, in order not to play so linear, the defense range of the 3 bet does not depend on the opponent's 3bet? because I read here that you have to defend 45% but if we face an opponent who 3bets 4% with vpip/pfr of 18/14, it is not advisable to have an open raise of 100% to steal the blinds and fold to the 3bet 80 %?