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08-13-2022 , 12:41 PM

DooDooPoker

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO ($26.62) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 23.9% | AGG: 38.1% | Flop Agg: 45.6% | Turn Agg: 34.2% | River Agg: 35.2% | 3-Bet: 11.1% | Fold to 3-Bet: 62.4% | 4-Bet: 14.8% | Hands: 65751]
SB ($25.10) [VPIP: 17% | PFR: 11.3% | AGG: 9.1% | Hands: 53]
BB ($25) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 45]
UTG ($25) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 17.8% | AGG: 18.2% | Hands: 47]
HJ ($37.55) [VPIP: 30% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 50% | Flop Agg: 75% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 100% | 3-Bet: 6.7% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 41]
CO ($25.35) [VPIP: 21.1% | PFR: 15.8% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 19]

Dealt to Hero: 5

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.75, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $2.25, SB Folds, BB Folds, HJ Calls $1.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.02 effective]
Flop ($4.85): 5

HJ Checks, HERO Bets $2.31 (Rem. Stack: $22.06), HJ Raises To $8.18 (Rem. Stack: $27.12), HERO ?

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08-13-2022 , 12:53 PM

Kagome

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Jam and fold seem close, without any info i don't think it matters. i guess the lower the stakes/tighter the villain the more you fold.

he's never b/folding a pair, so it's just whether or not we can gii vs enough fd's to make it worthwhile.

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08-13-2022 , 05:51 PM

Haizemberg93

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To me this looks like pretty straightforward call.

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08-13-2022 , 07:36 PM

Kagome

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Call seems fine, im just thinking if we discount his sets a bit, then he might have enough stuff we can GII vs + some folds that making jamming appealing

i changed my mind tho i think if ppl x/r JJ/TT they will probably fold at least sometimes since a lot of our jamming range has them dead or flipping

i do think that if he isn't x/r enough draws that jamming becomes an option that we should probably just fold flop tho

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08-13-2022 , 08:08 PM

Haizemberg93

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I don't think we can expect any significant fold equity of his OP vs jam.

It's bluff catcher with decent equity against most of his value hands, so call should be straight up +ev. Maybe I'm missing something but jam looks dubious at best but most likely just bad.

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08-13-2022 , 08:13 PM

itsyaboi

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I’d fold, 5 isnt that relevant of a blocker since they don’t have 55 much so you are up against a range of JJ/TT and flush draws mostly with little fold equity from 3 betting.

Call is 2nd best imo

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08-13-2022 , 08:43 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by itsyaboi

So no bluffs in his range?

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08-13-2022 , 08:45 PM

ChiTownBubba

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Sample size is quite small, so treating this as a vacuum spot.

Never bet/3 betting all in.

Depending on your assumption of his range for calling pre and his x/r range, I lean towards bet/folding A5cc and A5hh and bet/calling A5dd.

We are going to struggle mightily on sooooo many turns with the club and heart combos. We turn much better with the A5dd.

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08-13-2022 , 08:47 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by ChiTownBubba

That's reasonable. Are you we thinking this is never a xr/fold with this sizing?

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08-13-2022 , 09:01 PM

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ChiTownBubba

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

That's reasonable. Are you we thinking this is never a xr/fold with this sizing?

Sure, but the question becomes, do they xr/fold often enough?

Personally, I would have at least 1 to 2 combos of AA in his shoes, might risk it and flat KK pre once in a while, QQ can certainly be played as a call, JJ/TT/99?

I know you are aggressive pre (which I like) but even the most novice of players considering ranges is going to assume you only have 99 here in your 2pr+ range. This leaves all of the overpairs (which are still strong hands) in your range. Yet he is still check/raising.

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08-14-2022 , 09:53 AM

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Fritzzz137

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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93

It's right that there isn't a lot of fold equity depending on whether villain would lay down some top pairs or overpairs (which you still have 5 outs against). But that doesn't mean a shove is bad since you WANT to be called by flush draws.

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08-14-2022 , 10:06 AM

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AskZandar

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Originally Posted by Fritzzz137

But that doesn't mean a shove is bad since you WANT to be called by flush draws.

idk about that since any random FD+overcards is a favorite to win.

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08-14-2022 , 10:29 AM

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nonsimplesimon

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Originally Posted by AskZandar

idk about that since any random FD+overcards is a favorite to win.

This

What about checking to boot?

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08-14-2022 , 07:32 PM

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DooDooPoker

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So they almost never xr fold right?

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08-14-2022 , 08:36 PM

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endi

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

This

What about checking to boot?

if their xr range is so strong and they (almost) never have random overs or 77 or something i'd rather close my eyes and cbet range on almost all textures

not that they should be folding too often after putting so much in the pot but still some

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