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12-23-2010 , 06:15 PM
Sorry for tl;dr, just wanna include as much info and reads as possible.

So I'm 2-tabling this reg, and my impression is that he's very mediocre. His PTR has him winning at a bit over 1.5PTBB over 250k hands at 50nl HU and he'll think I'm a fishy reg because my PTR on stars is pretty awful. This session he's 3betting ~25%, and he occasionally goes through phases of 3betting >60% then calming down for a while (pretty sure it isn't variance). He's 3betting really wide, has shown up with KTo, K9o etc and in the phases of heavy 3betting has shown up with Q8o etc. He's also not very aggressive in 3bet pots, but occasionally balances it by checking strong hands like trips TK.

He's also quite passive in general (1.5 AF) and playing a showdown-happy game and generally when he bets big and quick he has a hand. He barely goes for thin value. He also called every single 4bet I've made (but 5bet shoved KK, so prob not balanced at all), at first I thought it was because I was running into the top of his non-shipping range but then we played this hand:


Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BB: $53.65
Hero (BTN/SB): $84.70

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 9
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $6.50

Flop: ($24.00) 3 2 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9.50, BB raises to $41.65, Hero calls $32.15

Turn: ($107.30) 3 (2 players)

River: ($107.30) 6 (2 players)

Final Pot: $107.30
BB shows 7 K
Hero shows 8 9
Hero wins $106.80
(Rake: $0.50)

I'll give specific reads for each hand, advice on all streets appreciated.


#1

As far as cbets go, he folds to just under half (I'm cbetting ~65%) and flatcalls 10% in bb, he's shown down 85dd etc so he probably flatcalls most of these hands since he's 3betting so damn wide for value. This is the second time he's c/r, he usually just flatcalls but because of how few hands we've played without him 3betting oop i dunno how he plays his draws. His only other c/r was on a drawy board too. I expect him to call a lot with high cards hence the cbet. He bet the turn quickly, so I think I should somewhat discount his draws, but given how much he 3bets I expect him to hardly ever show up with 99, and also A9 should be discounted quite a bit too, I've seen him 3bet A8o. If I call turn, what is my plan on a blank river? I'll comfortably fold all clubs, and I get the feeling he won't be c/r a bare A that much because most of them will be pretty low and he plays passively with those kinda hands in general. There's so damn few combos he can have of value imo but it just feels kinda spewy to be auto-calling all the way down if draws brick.

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BB: $274.25
Hero (BTN/SB): $52.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with T 5
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 5 A 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB raises to $6.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($16.00) A (2 players)
BB bets $8.50, Hero ?


#2


This was one of the earlier 4bets I made, he'd called one OOP already but I wasn't aware just how much he was doing it. Anyone play it any differently, and is it an easy river fold?



Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BB: $50.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $63.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with Q 6
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $12.50, BB calls $7

Flop: ($25.00) J 6 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($25.00) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($25.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $37.50


#3

I've been 3betting 18%, and he's defending 54%. He plays really straightforward (not raising, calling all pairs and checking behind turns etc) but will definitely slowplay trips on this turn some of the time. Betting the turn was a massive mistake (I know, lol at me), but given we got to the river should I bluff? I expect him to fold low diamonds on the turn.

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $165.05
Hero (BB): $75.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q Q
BTN/SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN/SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($9.00) K 9 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, BTN/SB calls $6

Turn: ($21.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, BTN/SB calls $12

River: ($45.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $35.00


#4

This is his only donk of the match. I expect him to have a draw a shtload of the time because he'll 3bet most of his really strong hands after donking. Is this an easy call just because fd's missed? I'm kinda worried about some kinda ****ed up straight just because he's made this river donk (differently played out earlier in each hand though) with the relative nuts and is in general a nit when considering big bets on later streets.

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BB: $62.85
Hero (BTN/SB): $50.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with J 8
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) Q J 8 (2 players)
BB bets $2.10, Hero raises to $6.50, BB calls $4.40

Turn: ($16.00) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50

River: ($39.00) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $38.50


Thanks in advance, sorry for long post.

Last edited by SmokeyQ123; 12-23-2010 at 06:30 PM.
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12-24-2010 , 12:57 PM
preliminary hand: nonstandard 4bet pre, standard betcall on flop.
#1: read-dependent whether you peel and re-evaluate (fd/sd and air a lot of the times on flop, more fds/sds when bets turn so might be worth a peel or raise as a bluff even)

#2: another nonstandard 4bet, probably fold river as played. when he calls 4bet --> prob doesnt have the air part of the polarized range he's repping (aka prob just has JJ+ here)

#3: turn bet is meh (if you bet make it bigger) and as played id c/f river unless you think you can bluff him off a K [re: probaly not]

#4: call imo. blame variance if your beat :/
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12-24-2010 , 03:54 PM
hand 1 - i think checking back the flop is better than betting, but given his very narrow bb defend range, i guess calling down if clubs/8/7/6 miss is ok.

hand 2 - your hand is best on a turn some decent % of the time and you can pretty much never call a river bet on any non Q or 6, so i would just bet like 40% pot. your range is protected and he's generally passive. the bet is mostly for protection, but you get c/c'd by some ace highs and maybe some flush draws. on the river, fold.

hand 3 - i dislike using this term because it's sort of a copout but this is pretty dependent on gameflow/recent history. can he have like KJ or does he raise the flop with that? can he have K3s? can he think you bet the flop with 98? it cant be that bad because he should fold some stuff that beats you and he doesnt have a ton of worse hands, but you are better able to evaluate the profitability of this spot at that point in the match than anyone who responds to this thread.

hand 4 - if you've never caught him bluffing a river, i would call because his line makes absolutely no sense with any hand.
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12-25-2010 , 06:17 AM
Thanks guys.

Hand 1 just seems like a spot that I get into a lot, and often I'll feel like their range is really polarised and they must have enough draws to call etc but it still feels spewy haha. More thoughts on shoving turn? I'm going to look into the theory of that because I've seen a bunch of good people do it in similar spots but it isn't a move i'm familiar with.

Kreaken did you miss that he called the 4bet with K7s? He def doesn't have JJ+ after calling the 4bet, or are you talking about after the river action? I think I like LooseCaller's line of betting small on turn, I assume you intend to fold to a raise right? IMO he's more likely to lead fd's than c/r but who knows.

Hand 3 he can DEF have any K he called pf with, including KJ and KQ which is why I decided to bluff. He can also have every trips, and a FEW fd's but the A high isn't possible anymore so I think he'll fold most of his fd's. He'll expect me to have 9's there too. I shouldn't get there with QQ but I guess I shoudl just bluff that card with all my missed gutshots/occasional air.

Hand 4 I timed down because I felt sick for some reason, then told myself I was never folding because it was such a lol line and made no sense. He had 45dd Pretty much one of the two hand I was worried about but w/e unless anyone thinks I can fold there I'll chalk it up to variance.
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