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09-06-2012 , 01:51 PM
BB fish running 50/7
MP is a Tagfish (18/15/3), he makes bad calls and generally plays poor postflop.
Earlier in the session he bets Vs a Missed cbet w/ TT 3way on a 975hh flop, I raise him, the PFR shoves and he calls (I call w/ the nuts).

So question is max value extraction, I'm guessing BB is committed to this pot leaving the MP who I thinks range may be weighted towards PP's

Thoughts?

[converted_hand][hand_history]$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $10.30 (103 bb)
BB: $4.04 (40.4 bb)
UTG: $20.77 (207.7 bb)
MP: $9.95 (99.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $14.27 (142.7 bb)
BTN: $13.62 (136.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.25) 5 3 3 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.65, MP calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.65, BB raises to $1.50, UTG folds, MP calls $0.85,
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09-06-2012 , 01:59 PM
ship the nickles IMO


just kidding.

I'd call OTF. The pots already bloated and you have position on these guys. BB will likely shove the turn with all hands he bet the flop with (e.g. any hand 66+, as well as flush /straght draws). By calling the flop MP can put you on a weaker range weighted towards draws, which means he might call BB's push OTT with 88-JJ or so. By that point you can just shove the turn or call and then shove the river.

Either way since your hand isn't afraid of any draws and since the pot is hugely bloated already, I see no reason to fastplay it. Calling the flop allows the other players to commit themselves without perceiving you as too much of a threat, whereas if you raise OTF MP might be able to get away from a decent strength hand figuring he can't have both you and BB beat.
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09-06-2012 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Any2Suited
ship the nickles IMO


just kidding.

I'd call OTF. The pots already bloated and you have position on these guys. BB will likely shove the turn with all hands he bet the flop with (e.g. any hand 66+, as well as flush /straght draws). By calling the flop MP can put you on a weaker range weighted towards draws, which means he might call BB's push OTT with 88-JJ or so. By that point you can just shove the turn or call and then shove the river.

Either way since your hand isn't afraid of any draws and since the pot is hugely bloated already, I see no reason to fastplay it. Calling the flop allows the other players to commit themselves without perceiving you as too much of a threat, whereas if you raise OTF MP might be able to get away from a decent strength hand figuring he can't have both you and BB beat.
+1 big time
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09-06-2012 , 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Any2Suited
ship the nickles IMO


just kidding.

I'd call OTF. The pots already bloated and you have position on these guys. BB will likely shove the turn with all hands he bet the flop with (e.g. any hand 66+, as well as flush /straght draws). By calling the flop MP can put you on a weaker range weighted towards draws, which means he might call BB's push OTT with 88-JJ or so. By that point you can just shove the turn or call and then shove the river.

Either way since your hand isn't afraid of any draws and since the pot is hugely bloated already, I see no reason to fastplay it. Calling the flop allows the other players to commit themselves without perceiving you as too much of a threat, whereas if you raise OTF MP might be able to get away from a decent strength hand figuring he can't have both you and BB beat.
Agree agree agree! Multiway with 2 other opponents showing a lot of aggression on the flop just call along for the ride and let them ship the nickels for you
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09-07-2012 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by soulpoem
Agree agree agree! Multiway with 2 other opponents showing a lot of aggression on the flop just call along for the ride and let them ship the nickels for you
true
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