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Easy Fold? 16nl Easy Fold? 16nl

03-05-2012 , 03:49 PM
Is this an easy fold? The more I look at it I'm telling myself yes. The BTN is 64/14 over 23 hands(small sample but enough to indicate he's a fish) and the SB is 16/9 over 638 hands. After the nit in the SB calls turn I can't see anything in his range that I'm ahead of, the more I look at it the more I think it's a bad call.



    Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12063512

    Hero (MP): $16 (100 bb)
    CO: $16.20 (101.3 bb)
    BTN: $7.14 (44.6 bb)
    SB: $17.78 (111.1 bb)
    BB: $51.33 (320.8 bb)
    UTG: $15.34 (95.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A Q
    UTG calls $0.16, Hero raises to $0.64, CO folds, BTN calls $0.64, SB calls $0.56, BB folds, UTG calls $0.48

    Flop: ($2.72) Q 7 2 (4 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.08, BTN calls $2.08, SB calls $2.08, UTG folds

    Turn: ($8.96) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $4.42, SB calls $4.42

    Results: $17.80 pot
    Final Board: Q 7 2 2
    Hero mucked A Q and lost (-$2.72 net)
    BTN mucked and lost (-$7.14 net)
    SB mucked and lost (-$7.14 net)



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    Last edited by Rogbey; 03-05-2012 at 03:54 PM.
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    03-05-2012 , 03:53 PM
    yes this is a clear fold, by continuing you are praying everyone is bluffing as you will have nothing but bluff catch value (and in a mw pot there is very little value in this)
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    03-05-2012 , 03:56 PM
    I am trying to think of a worse turn card, but I can't. I check and give up.
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    03-05-2012 , 05:22 PM
    ^^ 8/9/10/j/k any 10/j/k for a start.

    I probably b/f turn, as played c/f
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    03-05-2012 , 05:25 PM
    b/f turn is probably fine but we dont want to do any calling here
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    03-05-2012 , 05:27 PM
    you cant bett fold against bu
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    03-05-2012 , 05:30 PM
    B/f turn is likely too thin.

    There's just not enough worse queens out there especially with the presence of the SB, especially given SB may not x/r flopped sets trying to keep the fish in; even if called by two worse/drawing hands, there are still 10 clubs out there that virtually kill our hand.

    C/f turn is likely best.
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    03-05-2012 , 08:36 PM
    c/f turn looks okay here.
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    03-06-2012 , 06:19 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kidacao
    you cant bett fold against bu
    Well yeah b/c against btn, b/f against sb.

    C/fings fine also I think just don't c/c and we're fine.
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    03-06-2012 , 06:31 AM
    the nit prob has quads
    anyway sb always has you beat
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