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08-07-2022 , 09:56 PM

whitemares

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
UTG ($21.44) [VPIP: 16.3% | PFR: 3.3% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 189]
HJ ($28.50) [VPIP: 10.6% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 43.8% | Hands: 352]
CO ($35.58) [VPIP: 16.3% | PFR: 15.3% | AGG: 66.7% | Hands: 141]
HERO ($25.35) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 23.8% | AGG: 28.7% | Flop Agg: 30.8% | Turn Agg: 27.3% | River Agg: 28.4% | 3-Bet: 5.8% | 4-Bet: 4.7% | Hands: 35561]
SB ($15.81) [VPIP: 26% | PFR: 5.7% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 195]
BB ($44.66) [VPIP: 14.9% | PFR: 13% | AGG: 34.2% | Flop Agg: 34.3% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | River Agg: 37.5% | 3-Bet: 6.8% | Fold to 3-Bet: 75% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 3305]

Dealt to Hero: T

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.62, SB Folds, BB Raises To $2.75, HERO Calls $2.13

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.04 effective]
Flop ($5.60): 7

BB Bets $1.71 (Rem. Stack: $40.20), HERO Calls $1.71 (Rem. Stack: $20.89)

Turn ($9.02): 7

BB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($9.02): 7

BB Bets $12.63 (Rem. Stack: $27.57)

Should I ever call here against 15/13/7 guy? Clear theory call, but most of the regs in this pool are so nitty and bad that I'm wondering if I only call A and K flushes here

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08-08-2022 , 01:20 AM

aner0

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i call so hard i might break my mouse

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08-08-2022 , 03:34 AM

Unguarded

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Supernits can fall madly in love with their AA/KK/TPTK. He could easily be like "Oh yay, he didn't bet turn! He must not have a flush, so my big pair is the nuts!"

We even have a diamond blocker. I'd rather raise than fold, but calling seems best.

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08-08-2022 , 04:52 AM

NJPW

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Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,458

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Originally Posted by Unguarded

Supernits can fall madly in love with their AA/KK/TPTK. He could easily be like "Oh yay, he didn't bet turn! He must not have a flush, so my big pair is the nuts!".

As a nit, I always find these responses insanely ******ed.

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08-08-2022 , 10:36 AM

whitemares

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Originally Posted by aner0

i call so hard i might break my mouse

Didn't think it was that much of a snap lol. Against any other player type I'm snapping, but nits make me question these spots

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Originally Posted by Unguarded

idk about that, I think they would just go like 3/4 instead of overbetting. Feel like this is a flush or nothing spot in general, let alone against a nit

Jam just seems suicidal to me

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08-08-2022 , 11:20 AM

AskZandar

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I wouldn't consider folding.

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08-08-2022 , 11:35 AM

Fleetttt

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Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 550

They usually have you here, but you can't fold lol. Too high up in your range and there is a chance they are spazzing with overpairs and bluffs like AdJx or something. I don't think it's a fist pump snap though, just a sigh call.

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08-08-2022 , 12:03 PM

DooDooPoker

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Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,585

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Originally Posted by aner0

i call so hard i might break my mouse

agreed. Villain can be vbetting worse for value like AA/KK so we snap. Also we can't just auto assume nits don't ever bluff, they bluff at non zero frequencies. He could have AK with a diamond here.

Also this line/sizing is over bluffed by regs in general.

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08-19-2022 , 06:01 PM

jbcelo

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Originally Posted by whitemares

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.62, SB Folds, BB Raises To $2.75, HERO Calls $2.13

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.04 effective]
Flop ($5.60): 7

BB Bets $1.71 (Rem. Stack: $40.20), HERO Calls $1.71 (Rem. Stack: $20.89)

Turn ($9.02): 7

BB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($9.02): 7

I would JAM probably depending if villian likes to call raises OTR with his overpairs or strong top pairs even if I dont have reads I dont think population slowplays here a flush very often. Folding isnt an option cause our hand beats value and bluffs from villians range. I think it would be tougher if we have Q9s or T-x cauze then we only beat bluffs.

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08-20-2022 , 09:47 AM

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Franchise804

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Why would a nit x a flush ott when they have been folding all session and finally make their hand?

In any event, turn is a small bet for us

Jamming is pretty bad imo as this sizing does suggest nuts or air, not sure if I agree a nit value bets terribly thin here for this sizing

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08-20-2022 , 09:50 AM

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whitemares

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Originally Posted by Franchise804

Agree that turn is a small bet, but a nit who actually has some real understanding of the game would be checking some flushes ott with some freq

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08-20-2022 , 10:17 AM

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Ceres

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How many hands for the stats? If he's an uber-nit then he has less flushes in BB range.

Don't agree with betting turn ,think this hand just wants to realise

Always calling and if he has it grateful we only lost two streets. jam only makes sense if he's calling light enough and our read says nadda

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08-20-2022 , 11:31 AM

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whitemares

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Originally Posted by Ceres

Oh yeah I was confusing this with another hh I posted where I turned a flush, yeah this is a pretty easy turn check

I wouldn't call him an uber nit, he's obviously super tight, but he's 3bet suited connectors and weak Broadway before as BB, so he clearly has some kind of clue despite being so tight

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