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Deep w/ KK facing Turn shove Deep w/ KK facing Turn shove

04-15-2023 , 03:29 AM
PokerStars - €0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Villain: 34/25/3bet-11, Raise Flop CBet- 0/6 (93 hands)

Hero (BB): 143 BB
CO: 216.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, CO calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 4 6 7
Hero bets 7.3 BB, CO raises to 24.3 BB, Hero raises to 41.3 BB, CO calls 17 BB

Turn: (105.1 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, CO bets 164.2 BB and is all-in, Hero?

I think my 3bet OTF is bad; it should be bigger, around 50BB or... shove?
What (mis)led my action was his Low Raise flop C bet (tiny sample, i know). I was thinking that he either had a Set, was slowplaying AA or raising w/ some draw. And the purpose of my small 3bet was to find "where im at" and to also slow him down with overpairs since he has position.
AP, considering how deep we are, is Villain ever shoving worse OTT? Would you call?


Grateful for any advice!
Deep w/ KK facing Turn shove Quote
04-15-2023 , 08:57 AM
The board looks worst Than it is because the BB poler range interact very well with this texture. I don't mind bet the flop when you are 100BBeff.


150BB eff. I think on the flop you should check range. Sit out your stack in general, the deep play is completely different in a lot of spot
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04-15-2023 , 11:59 AM
Pre is good. I'm going for the jugular post. Bet big gii ... as played just continue shove the turn. Folding after all that button clicking otf is really bad.
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04-15-2023 , 12:12 PM
There should be few straights and two pair in his range so I think the most likely range is 88+, sets, and combo draws like A5 with BDFD. It comes down to how many worse over pairs we think he plays like this. I would guess TT-QQ do for sure which I think is normally enough to make it a call

However being deep stacked and having the (very small sample) 0 flop raise are points tipping me away from that. I am not really an expert in how to adjust deep stacked - does that make it more likely he flatted AA, or suited connectors that smash this flop? If so more likely to fold

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04-15-2023 , 12:43 PM
Most villians just gii pre with aces. We are mostly looking at sets and pp here.
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