you have made some extremely large sizing mistakes in this hand.

If you genuinely believe a reasonable raise size folds out everything but top set you should be raising ATC here.

I'm still waiting for everyone saying the raise on flop should have been bigger. WHAT HANDS CALL THAT RAISE and WHAT'S THE ODDS THOSE HANDS EXIST? enough of you saying it, shouldn't be hard to answer..........................................

honestly, they're all very obvious. you're playing vs bad players and i've seen you back up your plays in other threads by talking about how your opponents always make big calling mistakes (which is true). and they'll have loads of stuff they shouldn't have preflop to make it even better for us here.

maybe they also don't know how to size and they have an overpair. maybe they have AK or AQ and don't fold to any raise. maybe they have A4o or A5o. maybe they have the suites ones. maybe they have 89o, maybe they have all the suites 8x through 4-A, maybe they have have pocket 4s, 5s, 6s, 7s. maybe they have 45s, maybe they have 56s. maybe they have A2s or A3s. maybe they're getting sticky with 9Thh.

there are a billion combos of stuff that weaker players might continue vs large raises that are very questionable and few million that could justifiably call large raises.

this is micro stakes poker. people make enormous mistakes all the time. you need to take immediate advantage of these mistakes by using a larger sizing otf and compound their mistakes on later streets by doing so.

this is extremely basic and extremely important stuff. you should at least try to listen to me and the other players trying to help. these are players that have more experience and success in this game than you, why would you just dismiss their advice? if your goal in poker is to move up stakes and make more money, stubbornness is not a trait that will help you.

over pair? do you even play online micro? No over pair is min betting or flatting a min bet. Most those other hands aren't calling either.

Excellent thread, thank you Redsixerfan.

Flop is either a slowplay or a large raise. The board is arid and chances are it has hit nobody, including the preflop min-raiser-over-a-limper. There are no draws apart from 54 and gunshots, most people will have missed. Slowplaying might induce a check-raise from the BB. A large raise will get called by 8x, overpairs, Ax with a backdoor, and anyone who reads the board, reckons you're just having a stab as you've missed as well and gets curious.

The problem with a min-raise is that it gets very little extra money in the pot (your aim is to get a 250BB pot when someone has something, not pot controlling when people have a weak top pair etc), plus it takes away the likelihood of someone betting the turn as they'll naturally check to you.

I'd slowplay so that when someone hits their QTo or whatever on the turn, they can bet and you can raise big, rather than barely touching the pot on the turn and likely having to force the pace, although a big flop raise comes a very close second choice.

Then hallelujah on the turn, an Ace and someone actually leads in to you, saying "I have an Ace" but rather than a proper raise you just mess around again. I'm not sure what this screams more, "I have a monster hand" or "I'm clueless". Your aim is to get stacks in. Raise properly.

The above is for general discussion as the OP clearly knows better than anyone

What I think some in this thread are trying to say (some constructively, others not so much) is that is it is more likely that you will stack an opponent with larger raises. Unless this is a one off, your min raise into multiple opponents screams that you don't understand this concept.

Sure there will be specific hands that refute this theory like the hand you've shown that make it appear to be the right decision. Min-raises are tricky, but there's no need for trickiness OTF. You have the implied nuts and you have to try to build a pot to try to lower SPR and extract max value on future streets.

No need to discuss opponent ranges in this hand. Sometimes villains will all fold which sucks, but the other 9 times someone or someones will look you up way behind especially in micro and low limit games.

In short, play your monsters straight forward and give your opponents 0 credit for being able to fold. You'll do a lot better in the long run I promise you.

I would make sure any new players out there be cautious with the wrong advice on here to raise larger. This concept of taking down flops on the flop with best hands is wrong and dangerous/unprofitable poker. There's almost certainly no 2nd best hands that will call. You need to realize the situation and follow the action. To get max value out of your big hands is never chase away weak draws. In this case the small raise was meant to induce a bluff or possible get weak calls. In this situation AT called weak and coolered himself.

i don't even...

I would love to have 1! nl50 table like this. I m jealous way too often, maybe i should change room

What the hell is this thread? I assumed OP was a troll but there are way too many comments. You played every street terribly except the river. Preflop limping is bad unless the game is extremely passive and it's even meh then.

Op you shouldn't post hands asking for advice then overjustify your atrocious play. I don't even understand the point of this thread whatsoever. You got a stack while trying to bait someone into thinking they runner runnerd? How is this even strategy... It's so far from a cogent thought process.

I don't think they were asking for advice, not sure why they opened this thread, but seems to be shocked for getting criticized for a bad play. I have no idea why this thread exists.

What do you do on turn?

How do you play it?

YAR123 and Akromah still waiting........

yar123 has already posted multiple times in this thread. and i reckon you could probably guess what akromah would say...

YAR123 and Akromah still waiting........

Raise bigger flop + turn.

What size raise on flop, and what 2nd best hands call?

both will not answer because they know any real answer to the questions proves them wrong.

yes, let's never let this pinnacle of poker strat thread die!

Yeah, I can't think of any real hand range that would call with worse hand, I guess we're suppose to bluff with the 2nd nuts.