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02-16-2024 , 12:42 AM

Ceres

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V is tagged aggro. a.k.a. caught him punting at some point

Against a generic player or fish type i would autofold happily enough, but against a wilder player it seemed like a trickier decision. Is it?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 137.84 BB
SB: 100.4 BB
BB: 117.08 BB
UTG: 113.32 BB
MP: 120.56 BB
CO: 122.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J

UTG raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Flop: (45.4 BB, 2 players) 3

UTG bets 10.4 BB, Hero calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (66.2 BB, 2 players) 2

UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (66.2 BB, 2 players) 5

UTG bets 80.92 BB and is all-in, hero?

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02-16-2024 , 02:16 AM

DougInDenver

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Folding under the assumption villain has QQ+

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02-16-2024 , 06:26 AM

slyless

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Fold.
Even against a looser player, this board isn't ideal for bluff-catching. It's better to wait for a more favorable situation.

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02-16-2024 , 03:05 PM

Haizemberg93

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I dont hate calling, if he is really aggro.
Some AsX will keep betting turn or just pick smaller sizing otr.

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02-16-2024 , 03:38 PM

DooDooPoker

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Turn your hand into a bluff OTT. They overfold by about 10% in B25-X node.

As played, fold given formation and sizing.

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02-16-2024 , 07:37 PM

Haizemberg93

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They over fold because x range is weaker, that boosts ev of both bluffing and checking.

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02-16-2024 , 07:52 PM

Unguarded

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I would call. There's just no way this guy can resist jamming his air, and a lot of bad aggro players will bet smaller with a flush. So their range is just air when they jam.

This is one of those spots where I would rather face an overbet jam than a 1/3.

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02-16-2024 , 10:32 PM

DooDooPoker

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Ceres can we get results on this one? I'm hoping you called.

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02-16-2024 , 11:09 PM

newguyhere

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I'd fold

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02-16-2024 , 11:17 PM

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Ceres

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Sure, i called guy had A

Think in future I need a better read. Trouble with an aggro tag is sometimes they end up on good/okayish players in exploit mode.

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02-16-2024 , 11:35 PM

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DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by Ceres

Sure, i called guy had A

Think in future I need a better read. Trouble with an aggro tag is sometimes they end up on good/okayish players in exploit mode.

Cool thanks for the results

The problem with calling for me is just preflop, UTG 4betting ranges are too tight and you also 3bet huge. It's true BXB on 4 flush is overbluffed but it's pretty nuanced in that it's much less bluffed on monotone flops as opposed to 2tone etc. And much less bluffed on turn 4 to flush as opposed to river 4 flush. All this stuff matters when deciding when to call.

I have some MDA I can share in BXB UTG-HJvsIP. Samples aren't great but it's better than nothing.

Spoiler:

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02-16-2024 , 11:42 PM

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Ceres

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That makes sense. Strong range = increased trap ratio

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