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Originally Posted by SpectreXS
I don't see what's wrong with cbetting AND barreling turn here, like people only call a cbet in position with top pair+...
We look at several scenarios here:
1) If you are the villain with pocket pairs 22-TT, how many streets are you willing to call his cbets? I guess at most once right?
2) If you have air, would you seriously float on a AJx flop vs a preflop aggressor? I guess seldom right?
3) If you have QJ, KJ type of middle pair. At most you are calling a max of two barrels?
4) If you have gut shot, at most you are calling 1 barrel and most likely fold turn if no favourable cards arrive on turn?
5) If you have A2-AT, most people would call 2 barrels and fold to huge river bet. Some CS might call all the way.
6) If you have AJ-AK, and sets, two pairs, you are not folding.
As such, we compare the total number of combos for each possible hand range. It is not hard to see that for hands that are willing to call two barrels are only scenario 3, 5 and 6. Of these combos, you are likely beat most of the times.
Thus, the idea that you are double barreling for value is flawed.
On the other hand, since you are only able to get at most 1 street of value, it is much better to simply check flop. This keeps the villain range wide and allowing them to make bluff at flop which you can call.