https://rumble.com/vnd2qr-great-exam...dem-poker.html

money is made bluff catching.

usually the urge to donk overpowers me here.

Public service again: transcribing the hand so you don't have to click the link

50c/$1
Troll (110BB) is UTG with 9s9d

Troll twatlimps $1
HJ limps
CO limps
Button (120BB) raises to $5
Troll calls
Overlimpers fold

Heads up to flop (13.50)
Flop 8d6d6s
Troll checks
Button bets $8
Troll calls

Turn (29.50)
4c
Troll checks
Button bets $21
Troll calls

River (71.50)
Troll checks
Button bets 41
Troll calls

Comment: passive-fish preflop line aside, postflop seems pretty standard, it's an iso-range troll is up against, not a 3betting range, although button iso-sizing is pretty weak. Button should realise troll is a fish and may be targeting that, although if he assumes troll is a passive fish then may be more skewed towards value. All the same, after the weak preflop line I don't think folding is ever an option here with an overpair

This is a strategy forum. Stick to the topic or ignore. You're not here to garner laughs as your main focus.

trapping over pair is good strategy, donk betting over pair is bad strategy.

Those two accounts are the only ones attracting the off topic posts. I suspect they are intentionally baiting people with their controversial (generous word choice) opinions in an effort to generate more clicks on their links. I believe the sole purpose of these accounts is to get people to visit their links.

If you're going to delete this comment then please direct me to the appropriate place for community members to provide input.

Open twatlimping is bad poker OP

This is the first hand where you actually played it correctly postflop, nice job Troll

Nh

Have you ever even once made a poker related comment on any of my posts?

You can stop reporting this as an attack on you. I wasn't even talking to you.

This is a good spot to remind people of the forum guidelines

I've asked what reads you had, what evidence you had to support your limping strategy being an overall good strategy.

You and udbrky are the only 2 off topic. This is a poker forum. Please stick to the rules.

Limping is a rather new strategy and concept. Many upper end players and pros are limping out of position due to the much Wider 3bet ranges and larger sizing to give them a better chance to see flops, and use their skill to outplay opponents after the flop. Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu, Todd Brunson have been utilizing this strategy. Daniel Negreanu said it best the larger the raise preflop with allin being the max takes the least skill and most luck with smaller raises take the most skill with limping being the smallest raise. Going allin preflop leaves 100% of the outcome based on board run out, whereas seeing a flop multiway with everyone's max range takes great skill. I know people are going to argue this, but take it up with Daniel Negreanu.

Limping is a thing in tournaments. The lack of rake, antes, wanting to give short stacks a bad price on a shove, and survival pressure from ICM all incentivize this behaviour.

Limping is a thing in HU and even in 6max games from the SB. The idea is that you get to expand your range a little bit by including a third option. The main problem is that limping strategies pay a lot more rake.

Limping from UTG-BTN in a raked cash game without antes is not a thing. Theoretically you just end up losing a bunch of value with the slow plays required to defend the limp, pay a lot more rake, and under-realize a ton of equity going multiway with 99s. I mean you can play that way, but it's an objectively worse strategy than open raising. You're effectively gambling on the metagame.

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As a side note, I'm not sure what Zalezalez/Redsixfan get out of stirring the pot. But I won't be clicking on any of their posted links from now on.

Todd Brunson lol

Here comes the trolls

Tod Brunsen and Daniel Negreanu - the Cash Game Gurus - hahahahah

I have never seen a good player open limp at 200NL+ 6-max. If you saw me do it that one time, that was a misclick. Like tombos said, completing the small blind can be a valid strategy, but even then it's a fairly complex strategy to balance, and most good players still play raise or fold.

It may be valid in some tournament spots at where stack depth and ICM considerations can make raising problematic with a hand that's too good to fold, but that doesn't appear to be at all what you're talking about here.

I have no urge to donk or raise when I'm in similar spots because in this spot you are going to generate the exact opposite response you would want. Everything worse than you will fold, everything better will call. There is some merit to taking an aggressive action on the flop for equity denial, but you likely win more from the bluffcatching than you do from charging his 6 out draw.