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Originally Posted by Ceres
Agree turn raise is strong and we could be dead. BU has somewhat uncapped strength here is a concern. i can see the logic in reaping against worse (88,99,66 etc) but as I understand even fish will take the betting lead more often than they should with draws and worse/vulnerable value when we b/x oop, and I think he has plenty of A7, 56, 98, 86, all those weak pairs, + weird FD floats that all need protection and will probably bet enough. not sure we lose much EV to worse value that does x compared to all the hands that are incentivised to try and knock us out
In that vein, I prefer to check flop too. Unless I'm IP or ultra exploiting a fishy situation I don't like to take betting leads multiway. And certainly not on low boards with marginal OPs. As the money goes in on later streets we're almost cert fcuked
Interesting, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum here. I think the average fish calls lighter than they bluff, and certainly doesn't raise enough, so barring more specific reads than "fish" the exploit is to c-bet more and fold more, but bluff less in spots where both players' ranges are strong and as such bluffs are designed to fold out high absolute hand strength hands like TP+. If I know both players are fish I'd range c-bet pretty much any paired board, certainly this one, because they'll both fold a decent amount and will rarely raise you off your overcard equity. Then ott certainly betting this hand because I see guys check behind the hands you describe all the time. I guess this is more a question of player pool behavior than anything else, but the fish in my games are definitely on the passive side such that b/f way overperforms both in general and in this spot.