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03-31-2023 , 02:13 AM


Threshold for value betting OTR? would overpairs with spade be too thin for a block sizing OTR?

not sure about my exact hand though i thought in game that the 5 blocker was good enough to jam river.
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03-31-2023 , 08:56 AM
I'm b/f that combo pure OTF. Would rather 3b with A3/A5 and then some 2x 4x blockers; value some Overpairs and some A9, some occasional sets. I can imagine solver mixes in some funky broadway bluffs as well, but I am way too bad to do that in game.

as played
OTT I think the 3s is just such a phenomenal card for the BB, I would continue betting here, but again, in solver land I assume it's just a range check.

as played
OTR I guess it is kinda hard for us to have one spade here, our range that is jamming now is flushes and straights. We want villain to fold a 9x, we want him to fold 2pair, stuff like that, so unblocking these hands but blocking straights might be good.
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03-31-2023 , 09:33 AM
Flop is pretty spewy, the 5 isn’t really an out and your back door equity isn’t great either, you also block little value

That’s actually a pretty awful turn card, BB is uncapped with a lot of high equity hands in position, meanwhile you’re behind in both equity and realization, and even more so if you’re 3betting flop with very low equity garbage

River is probably spew as well, even with the 5 you block a very small part of their calling range. Having a 4/2/spade would be way better, which is why a lot of our flop 3betting range should be 1 pair hands

Last edited by whitemares; 03-31-2023 at 09:49 AM.
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03-31-2023 , 11:52 AM
First mistake is playing zoom

3b is probably too loose esp vs bigger raise. If you decide to 3b pick smaller sizing, because we are just trying to fold out his rando bluffs.

Turn also could be smaller. At this point str8s and sets are quite big chunk of his range so you can bet 2/3 or so tu pressure a 9x.

I think river should be just a give up.he need to fold some really strong hands and our story is not super consistent. Otf we rep OP, ott we rep set+ and otr I guess 56+ can jam, maybe A5?


Solver folds this hand even vs 1/2 raise and turn is range check.
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03-31-2023 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
First mistake is playing zoom
Second mistake is playing in literally the worst zoom pool in the world, it’s all nitty Eastern Euros and Western regs living in SE Asia trying to eke out 2bb/100 to scrape by. Even the fish are ridiculously nitty

Granted most of the regs aren’t that good, but the edges aren’t big enough to justify playing unless you’re a real crusher (which I would have to doubt OP is, because anyone good enough to crush 50 blitz would be playing higher). But who knows, maybe OP just enjoys the most miserable grind possible
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03-31-2023 , 02:49 PM
Did you ever saw fish from Russia/Ukraine/Kazakhstan on WPN?
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03-31-2023 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
Did you ever saw fish from Russia/Ukraine/Kazakhstan on WPN?

i was actually quite surprised when i realised that there were more EE fish than i expected, most fish/recs in 50 blitz pool are the americans though.
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