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[MICRO] BvB part 2 same villain

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01-23-2024 , 08:18 PM

swerbs22

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PartyGaming - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 16.76 BB
CO: 99.8 BB
BTN: 53.36 BB
SB: 90.6 BB
Hero (BB): 176.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1.4 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.8 BB) Hero has J

UTG calls 1 BB, CO checks, BTN calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (5.4 BB, 5 players) 7

SB bets 5.12 BB, Hero calls 5.12 BB, fold, fold, fold

Turn: (15.64 BB, 2 players) 7

SB bets 14.8 BB, Hero calls 14.8 BB

River: (45.24 BB, 2 players) T

SB bets 69.68 BB and is all-in, Hero?

Spoiler:

Why am I much happier to call down in H1, and this hand I full time banked it...

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01-23-2024 , 08:25 PM

Haizemberg93

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You can't call this otf.

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01-23-2024 , 11:04 PM

swerbs22

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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93

You can't call this otf.

villain is vpiping over 80, im not folding a pair OTF.

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01-23-2024 , 11:20 PM

newguyhere

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Originally Posted by swerbs22

villain is vpiping over 80, im not folding a pair OTF.

It doesn't really matter when you still have 3 people left to act behind you.

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01-23-2024 , 11:23 PM

AskZandar

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The flop is a disaster.

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01-23-2024 , 11:33 PM

swerbs22

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

It doesn't really matter when you still have 3 people left to act behind you.

that's really all dead money... CO is in with penalty...

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01-24-2024 , 05:13 AM

Dante Alighieri

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Originally Posted by swerbs22

that's really all dead money... CO is in with penalty...

How is it dead money? 88, 77, 66, 98, 97, 87, 86, 76, 8x, etc. etc. are all likely holding for players who limp. Tons and tons of combos and TWO limpers (I would also count CO as dead money).

I'd fold OTF but call river. It is the same villain as in the AJo hand, right? Then snap call.

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01-24-2024 , 07:45 AM

swerbs22

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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri

How is it dead money?

Because a lot of players limp/fold without much thought. Doesn't seem fair to give them all nutted hands because they got in the pot (and at least I have some removal holding one 7). The table has been all about SB since he sat down.

The flop call can't be that bad considering the HH with villain. The post is regarding the river decision because I felt like the T is pretty much the worst card to see imo

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01-24-2024 , 10:27 AM

Dante Alighieri

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Originally Posted by swerbs22

I have such a hard time accepting the flop call if we follow it up by folding river against this villain. I agree the T is terrible, but villain probably understands that, esp. seeing how they donk-bluffed the potential flush in the other hand you posted.

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01-24-2024 , 03:59 PM

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swerbs22

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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri

Just because I call flop that doesn’t mean I’m committed 100%. Seems like that approach may lead to a few too many spews/punts

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01-25-2024 , 04:32 AM

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Ceres

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Flop call = river call for me. But that's only with read. My track record vs randos in these forced pots looks like the opening 15m of Saving Private Ryan

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01-31-2024 , 07:57 AM

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rocketm92

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Since this is the same whale, I would just jam turn.

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