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03-22-2024 , 05:20 AM
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are AA and Kx so weak on this connected runout vs range with offsuit connectors that we can fold most of the time otr after getting raised otf? As we also have stronger hands otr.
Solver likes to 3bet flop w AA at some freq but slowdown/shutdown on this runout ott.
So after calling/3betting otf our safe runouts are 9+ only as his value range is only sets and Kx?



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03-22-2024 , 07:33 AM
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Yeah very hard for IP to find enough bluffs when every flop draw get there or pick up decent pair. I would probably call in game, because hand looks so nice, but when you think about what IP is bluffing with?
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03-22-2024 , 11:02 AM
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Id be impressed if villain found the full gto range of flop raises here as a lot of them are not that intuitive. This would make calling ranges on the river even tighter than what you see on gtow. I think most of the time villain would have it and the bets look super valuey.

Idk what id do in game. It makes it to the river 100%. I’d like to think i would fold but i have 34% fold to river bet so who am i kidding.

I like the idea of flop 3bet. Put them into a node they are less familiar with and most likely going to play straight forward.
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03-22-2024 , 11:56 AM
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His river bet feels like value. I think that there are players good enough to do this with the 56/57/46/47 region but in my opinion they wont go this size river
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03-22-2024 , 01:44 PM
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Solver prefering AK, KT, K9 et al >AA here is wild and doesn't make sense to me. Would much rather have an A no K

I think it boils down to where they fall on the fish/reg devide. Vs fish I think it's always a call. Reg probably not going 75% with KQ/KJ or air enough after we call two streets
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03-22-2024 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceres
Solver prefering AK, KT, K9 et al >AA here is wild and doesn't make sense to me. Would much rather have an A no K

I think it boils down to where they fall on the fish/reg devide. Vs fish I think it's always a call. Reg probably not going 75% with KQ/KJ or air enough after we call two streets
Because having a K and blocking so many of the 2 pair matters. Also AA is mostly no different than a good K.
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03-22-2024 , 03:52 PM
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Ah yes, 2p sounds right
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