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02-05-2024 , 08:09 AM
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Can bet flop. Was focusing on another table.



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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (172.6BBs)
BB (178.8BBs) [VPIP: 28.6% | PFR: 2% | AGG: 37.8% | Hands: 52]

Dealt to Hero: 6 A

HERO Raises To 2.5BBs, BB Calls 1.5BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [34.02 effective]
Flop (5BBs): J A 2
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn (5BBs): J A 2 2
BB Checks, HERO Bets 1.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 168.5BBs), BB Calls 1.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 174.7BBs)

River (8.2BBs): J A 2 2 2
BB Bets 174.7BBs (allin),
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02-05-2024 , 09:16 AM
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For the sizing you can snap fold. Just ask yourself if mental can handle seeing the case duece when he flips over his cards and if so, call.
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02-05-2024 , 11:03 AM
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Fold. He won't bluff like this and even vs Ax it's almost breakeven call when you consider the rake.
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02-05-2024 , 11:25 AM
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But who slowplays 2x on that turn, and then bombs?

I think it's a call. It's a flip so it hurts but w/e
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02-05-2024 , 11:30 AM
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But who slowplays 2x on that turn, and then bombs?

I think it's a call. It's a flip so it hurts but w/e
a fish?


and you know there's like a 95% chance if we call and lose that he's going to leave the very next hand.
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02-05-2024 , 11:38 AM
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But who slowplays 2x on that turn, and then bombs?

I think it's a call. It's a flip so it hurts but w/e
How is it a flip?
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02-05-2024 , 12:19 PM
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This is a very easy fold. Its never a bluff. Best case scenario is a chop which is worth almost nothing after rake
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02-05-2024 , 12:28 PM
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How is it a flip?
Pot odds. You can't get worse than a flip even if they jam $1,000,000

As for him being a fish, of course. I think the q is 'how likely is a fish going to overvalue Ax?'. Which is up for debate. I'm not sure how much % chance of future stackability plays into it though. Online fish could leave at any point anyway.


Tbh I'd probably fold in game, but this is newguy's money...
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02-05-2024 , 01:04 PM
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Pretty easy fold. A fish can have JJ/AA here, and any suited 2x.
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02-05-2024 , 02:29 PM
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Quote:
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But who slowplays 2x on that turn, and then bombs?

I think it's a call. It's a flip so it hurts but w/e

You might be getting Evens on your money but that's a terrible price given the context of this spot.
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02-05-2024 , 02:59 PM
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Nothing like the 20x pot shove y’know, so sick.

Fold. Lol
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02-05-2024 , 04:11 PM
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You have like 4BBs invested in this pot. This is the easiest fold ever unless you're 100% positive he's bluffing. I mean you'll lose more on rake if you call and he was dumb enough to do this with Ax.
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02-05-2024 , 04:16 PM
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Okay guess this wasn't as interesting as I thought.

HH was actually doctored, but the real hand got me thinking "What if..."



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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (172.6BBs)
BB (178.8BBs) [VPIP: 29.9% | PFR: 6.5% | AGG: 46.8% | Hands: 80]

Dealt to Hero: 6 A

HERO Raises To 2.5BBs, BB Calls 1.5BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [34.02 effective]
Flop (5BBs): J A 2
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn (5BBs): J A 2 2
BB Checks, HERO Bets 1.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 168.5BBs), BB Calls 1.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 174.7BBs)

River (8.2BBs): J A 2 2 2
BB Bets 7.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 166.9BBs), HERO Calls 7.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 160.7BBs)

Spoiler:

BB shows: 3 3

HERO wins: 22.5BBs
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02-05-2024 , 04:25 PM
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Okay guess this wasn't as interesting as I thought.

HH was actually doctored, but the real hand got me thinking "What if..."
Bro.... I'm gonna.... lol

How about, if my opponent XR's for Y amount, what's the folding point considering rake?
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02-05-2024 , 05:19 PM
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Okay guess this wasn't as interesting as I thought.

Well we've learnt 20x pot with ATC on this river prints vs regs
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02-05-2024 , 07:18 PM
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Well we've learnt 20x pot with ATC on this river prints vs regs
Ya... take that to the bank fo sho.
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