bad luck or bad timing?

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.5 BB
SB: 130 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
CO: 228 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 A

CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 7 A 3
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (16.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets 9.5 BB, Hero raises to 43 BB, CO calls 33.5 BB

River: (102.5 BB, 2 players) 2

Hero?

Bad play.

Tru


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Not sure why you saying bad?

Bigger Pre 12-13bb we are going to be polar so want to be much bigger
flop check is fine
Turn mainly bet but check raise is fine
River I am jamming

3bet to 4x, thats 10bb. Range bet your 2pair 50 to 60%. Then go further. You gotta work on your fundamentals.

I think you need to work on your fundamentals.
The 3bet will be bigger than 10bb
We will be do a ton of checking with our range and this hand if not pure check will mainly check.
Also the preferred size with our range will be b33 not b60

Just checked and this is pure check; no wonder this forum is dying with the advice people give here

He plays against a fish who will pay him off with a lot of worse hands.
I case you notice, he is playing 2nl.

The 12bb 3b or 10bb will not make a big difference in EV. When they go 3bb rfi then i go for sure 12bb.

Just my HI

If the forum is dying it's because of guys like you making comments like this.

Not sure why you think villain is a fish? Yes it's 2nl but unless things have changed since about 10 years ago there a still regs at 2nl he has a full stack and rfi to the correct size so I would assume reg.

If you are going to use that logic then a well constructed range will lose minimal EV using a 8bb 3bet, I'm pretty sure clanty uses small 3bets Oop in these nodes probably close to 8bb but if we are talking fundamental theoretically sound poker then 12-13 is the optimal size due to the polarisation of our range.

Have fun being stuck at 10NL mate

Hum hum, I did not see we have 2 pairs... OP once again 3betting far too small when this advice (3bet bigger out of position) was given to them multiple times made me answer too fast, sorry.

We are supposed to 3bet a lot of garbage hands from BB and CO is supposed to defend many Ax hands, even more so when we 3bet so small. I would personally call all suited A's as CO vs this 3bet size.
Also we 3bet many unsuited hands so the flush draw on the flop is better for CO.
That's (I think) why the solver checks *a lot* on this flop, including A3 (and AA!)

I see the point of "we play 2NL, screw the solver", but we might as well try to learn the standard play and not take bad habits.

I think our check is more than we are just not doing that great on this board plus being Oop which always increases checking frequency, yes we have best top pairs and top set, but no top two or 77, 33 really. When co does have these hands and even more so Vs the small 3bet.

We also have a load of pairs that don't really benefit from betting TT-KK

With the AA check this makes a ton of sense as hand is basically indestructible and blocks most of there calling range.

Think with what you said about co having all Ax suited makes this even more of a check in practice as I would guess that a lower stakes regs are going to bet too many of there top pair weak kicker hands that should check back in gto land. And then we can check raise and try to play for stacks

I don't think we should just blindly play gto at 2nl as we will leave a ton of money on the table but we should use it as a baseline to create our exploits from when we know how the population is deviating

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Ya i think its generally one of the harder spots ive been in i almost jammed turn

River: (102.5 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 49 BB and is all-in, CO calls 49 BB



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And i think based on his preflop play hes a fish but its ok i dont know


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It's pretty normal to play top + bottom pair passively but sticky, turn raise is out of line imo

Jamming turn would have been a good way to just all the money in bad, definitely not a jam; I think this is wp minus points talked about

He raised 2.5 in co and called a 3bet what data point makes you think he is a fish?

I think in theory it will do both but it's ev will come from bluff catching bad rivers which will be underbluffed by the population so think raise will perform better than theory

Showing the solver result for 2NL is ridiculous.
Checking 2p at this limit where people call down everything is totally wrong.
Your advice id very bad.

It is confirmed that you are the biggest fish at 2NL - so stop calling others a fish

Have you ever grinded 2nl? It's full of nits and regular fish that have been stuck there for 10 years. A full stack and 2.5bb rfi doesn't mean much there Applying and working with GTO solvers and balancing your game too much costs you a lot of your EV. For me, 3.2x in position and 4x out of position worked best in the low micros. The goal is to move up and learn further as quickly as possible.

Thanks for confirming why this forum is going bad